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Bernardino Cataneo
« on: December 14, 2015, 12:36:51 AM »
What a strange character to use a broad pen!  When it is in the hand of a master, all too well know, calligraphy starts.

[Link no longer active. But I am keeping this thread because of all the great comments and posts.]


Very interesting site to learn Cancellaresca Corsiva by the hand of the calligrapher Bernardino Cataneo, 1524.

and I am interested if any one have a copy of Cataneo Manuscript for sale or loan.
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Re: Bernardino Cataneo
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2015, 06:35:33 AM »
Very interesting site to learn Cancellaresca Corsiva by the hand of the calligrapher Bernardino Cataneo, 1524.

and I am interested if any one have a copy of Cataneo Manuscript for sale or loan.

My copy of "An Italic Copybook - The Cataneo Manuscript" is one of the Calligraphy books I most treasure.

His tiny Italic is incredibly beautiful, standing favourable comparison with any Italic written before or since.

I've had my copy for a few years and can't remember where I got it. Although photocopying isn't allowed (your link is to a personal interpretation  of the style, and not original) I would strongly suggest trying to track down a copy ; a truly wonderful example of calligraphy of the highest order IMO.

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Re: Bernardino Cataneo
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2015, 11:03:08 AM »
Four surviving plates on the web.




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Re: Bernardino Cataneo
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2015, 11:04:52 AM »
I am just amazed at what broad nib can do.  When I first started with improving my handwritten penmanship.  I shied away from broad nib and vowed not to ever use a broad nib.

That have changed since I started italic.  English roundhand is a development from the broad nib, italic cursive (as I understand it, correct me if i am wrong).  So now, I have fallen down a different rabbit hole, hope there is light at the end of this tunnel.

my first crack:
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Re: Bernardino Cataneo
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2015, 12:49:41 PM »
Those are amazing omg. Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Bernardino Cataneo
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2015, 03:49:26 PM »
Here are links to three more plates from the Bernardino Cataneo manuscript:

http://ids.lib.harvard.edu/ids/view/22345714?buttons=y
http://ids.lib.harvard.edu/ids/view/22345715?buttons=y
http://ids.lib.harvard.edu/ids/view/22345716?buttons=y

Harvard has the entire manuscript but these are the only pages I've found that are available for public viewing (maybe they'll make all the plates accessible sometime in the future.  :) ).

Editted because I'm having mondo grammer problems today.
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Re: Bernardino Cataneo
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2015, 05:31:02 PM »
The majuscule is so much similar to Johannes B Palatinus.

It is going to be fun decoding all these ... :D


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Re: Bernardino Cataneo
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2015, 05:39:50 PM »
The lettering really is tiny. The page size is only 7 7/8" x 5 3/8"

In some of the examples, the x height is only 1/16" - written with great accuracy with an edged nib!

In the book, some of the writing is shown also at a greatly enlarged size, and the quality is truly astonishing.
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Re: Bernardino Cataneo
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2015, 12:01:05 AM »
This would be perfect for me ... not that i like to write small but by daily writing only allows at most 4"x6" area to write.

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Re: Bernardino Cataneo
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2015, 02:33:20 PM »
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Re: Bernardino Cataneo
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2015, 10:14:09 PM »
Very cool! I now know what I will learn next. Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Bernardino Cataneo
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2016, 02:31:05 PM »
Is this close enough to old Maestro Cataneo?


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Re: Bernardino Cataneo
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2016, 04:59:20 PM »
I spent a week with Gemma Black studying the Cataneo manuscript this year!  It was a truly inspirational experience.  Those tiny letters. ♥___♥ And those flourishes!

I wrote about the workshop here but also here is attached a piece that I came up with by the end of the week :)  Not close to Cataneo perfection, but a week really wasn't long enough for that!  I feel like I'm beginning to understand the style though.


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Re: Bernardino Cataneo
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2016, 10:35:09 AM »
Moya...that's wonderful.  A great combo of black letters and Italics.  They go so well together.

A kind critique request....Here's my current Cataneo spin.  (I tried to write without exemplar, just the learned hand.)
Any improvement I can make to closely resemble Cataneo?