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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 2
« Last post by NevadaDeb on Today at 03:57:48 PM »
A week after last post. Slow progress, but I think, progress.
Most of the scribes I know save a lot of time by composing their pieces on a computer using a font that is somewhat like the style they will be using for the finished piece. There are a multitude of fonts at that you may download - free for personal use. Beware of the other *free font* sites. Some of them are full of malware.

Once you have composed your piece in the point size that approximates your finished piece, you can do a *tracing* of the font to give you the general spacing. There are times when I have been willing to help clients who are under a very difficult time crunch and I lay out the piece on the computer and then do the lettering on Arches Text Wove. That paper is light enough that I can see enough to do the lettering without a light table. It cuts out all the time it takes to rule lines and then erase them.

It is not a crime or *cheating* to trace. It would be plagiarizing to trace the calligraphic work of another scribe and pass it off as your own. But to trace your own layout using a font is simply utilizing tools that are available.

When I was just getting started, I would trace the work of scribes whose work looked beyond my wildest dreams for myself. It took a lot of patience to trace the work exactly. But, it was very encouraging to see that my hand could actually go through the motions to create lettering that was where I hoped to be someday. And then I threw my tracing away.

If you are looking for a font for copperplate, I think Milton is a good choice.

But there are lots of others - so you should really scroll through all the options.

Flourishing / Re: Frustrated with beginner flourishing - looking for help
« Last post by evad on November 16, 2018, 01:59:56 PM »
@Steph C

I had a look at this class and browsed its Instagram hashtag. I found so many examples that I was able to piece something together and design my first flourishes for a friend's name and surname. Once I'd copied a few flourishes from IG posts and spent more time on the piece, I figured out where to add some flourishes of my own. I feel like my design skill has improved a million times just by looking at the hashtag. Imagine what taking the actual class would do! :) Unfortunately the next one doesn't start until spring. Thank you so much for sharing this resource. Like you said, I also need to practice tons to improve my forms, but I know I can get this down - I struggled with the design/layout part of flourishing the most.
Tools & Supplies / Re: Curv-E Holder - New Oblique Pen Holder
« Last post by NevadaDeb on November 16, 2018, 11:53:48 AM »
Kozibe, think how flexible you are to be able to use both an oblique and straight holder! It’s sort of like being ambidextrous. I’ve used a straight holder for 40 years for broad pen calligraphy, but find my hand is too torqued to remain comfortable in a straight holder while doing copperplate style lettering. I wish I COULD use both, interchangeably! I do like the straight holder for some flourishing, though. I sure hope the Curv-E works for you. And, of course, I love it when calligraphers support other calligraphers who also are pensmiths. Good luck, Kobize!
Tools & Supplies / Re: Curv-E Holder - New Oblique Pen Holder
« Last post by kozibe on November 16, 2018, 10:22:44 AM »
Its funny that you mention about Paul and the straight holder @esmy77   I feel most comfortable using a straight holder, but when I am taking a lesson I was to adhere to the teachers recommendations as closely as I can and with a lot of copperplate lessons out there there recommend using an oblique.  So I am really trying to find an oblique that works for me so that I am as versatile as I can be.  I am hoping this one could be the one.   
Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Help please, complete newbie!
« Last post by Estefa on November 16, 2018, 06:32:00 AM »
I suggest using good quality, smooth, hot pressed watercolor paper – a lightfast ink like walnut, iron gall ink or artist's gouache (check for lightfastness, not all pigments / colors are in fact lightfast) – and if you're not really used writing with a dip nib, it really could be frustrating to learn it in a month. If you write it with a fountain pen, as suggested, – which can look beautiful – choose also an ink that is lightfast.

I can't say which style to choose. Generally broad pen styles are regarded as easier than pointed pen styles, but for me it's the other way round. So I'd look for an exemplar that doesn't seem too difficult and complicated and, most importantly, that you like – as you will probably spend quite a bit of time to learn it ;).

Sounds like a lovely project and I wish you good success!

You'll find very good learning ressources in this forum, check


and probably some more ;).
Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Help please, complete newbie!
« Last post by RD5 on November 16, 2018, 06:02:46 AM »
The easiest thing to do, since you only have month, is to write your normal handwriting with a fountain pen on nice paper.

Broad Edge Pen Calligraphy / Re: Did you know.......?
« Last post by Ken Fraser on November 15, 2018, 04:25:50 PM »
Thanks for your interest, Janis.
I've just found out about this relatively recently, and it strikes me as particularly strange that we could have been pronouncing it correctly, all those years!
Open Flourish | General Discussion / Help please, complete newbie!
« Last post by mlawn279 on November 15, 2018, 04:11:12 PM »
Hi - first of all I need to apologise for my ignorance, I have always 'written nicely' but never tried any form of actual calligraphy. I've thought about it many times and never gotten around to it but I now have a reason...

I get married in a month and would like to give my bride the words to her favourite song that I've handwritten in a frame. I'm pretty sure this is something she'd like but I have no idea where to start to get it to look how I'd like it to. I think I need to know:

What type of paper I need?
Do I need a specific type of ink that won't fade?
Are there techniques or styles that are easier to get reasonably good at it in a shorter period of time?
Are there other things I'm not thinking of?!

Any help would be very greatly appreciated!!
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