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With regards to the original point -

I use Instagram all the time and have amassed a  collection of those whose writing I admire. It's like looking through a magazine of ever-changing beautiful work on a daily basis. I occasionally comment briefly and receive similar feedback on my own extensive "page"  To me, the object is primarily visual and I derive great pleasure from viewing it regularly. As one, who has no direct contact with other calligraphers, it a real lifeline. Long may it and "The Flourish Forum" flourish!.

http://instagram.com/fraser.ken
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but I get frustrated because I donít care about the pretty surrounding the calligraphy. I want to see pretty calligraphy!

but pics that are more about ribbons and flowers might be nice to look at, but it's sometimes hard to get a real look at the actual writing!

I agree, totally.  This is one of my favourite quotes -

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He sure sound like my Great-great-grandfather.  For him, he stressed education (penmanship being primary), martial art, music, and art.  This is the way to become a gentle/wo/man.

Thanks for sharing.
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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: My interview on CBC Tapestry
« Last post by Salman Khattak on September 22, 2018, 08:28:39 PM »
wonderful! It's always great to connect a face with a well-known online name. Congrats.

How did they find you?

@AAAndrew

Thank you Andrew. I was introduced to the producer of the show by a mutual friend in the fountain pen community.

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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: My interview on CBC Tapestry
« Last post by Salman Khattak on September 22, 2018, 08:25:45 PM »
What a great way to get to know you better. I loved the video.

@CraigRuhl - thank you Craig. Sorry for missing your post. I just saw it now.
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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 2
« Last post by NevadaDeb on September 22, 2018, 07:27:24 PM »
Oh, my goodness! I can't thank you enough for your incredibly insightful comments, Salman. I have struggled (am STILL struggling) with that "J" shape, and you gave me exactly the detailed information I needed to start improving it. I should wait a few days to share, and get more practice in, but I'm too excited to be finally starting to make the delicate shapes. This was the "key" for me--exactly how long the descender should be, and when to fade the shade. The last "y" in this line was wasn't as successful, but I'm starting to get it, and that is EXCITING! Whooo! I love learning. And I'm crazy about studying in groups of 5, which really allows me to reflect on what I have done successfully and unsuccessfully, rather than writing out long lines and making the same mistakes over and over. Those short groupings of 5 really set us up for success. Fantastic tips, and you're a great motivator. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 2
« Last post by Salman Khattak on September 22, 2018, 05:01:23 PM »
@NevadaDeb

Wow Debi - that is such a detailed assessment. I especially love that you stayed non-judgemental - it is easy to be too critical of oneself.

We have to focus on the mistakes while learning but it is also important to take account of the progress we have made. As far as structure and the shape of the strokes go, you are have achieved a lovely combination of delicacy and flow. It is no easy task to have such beautifully judged spacing.

The only thing I would add is the size of the descender loop of the 'j' stroke. It should come a bit lower to about halfway into the second descender space. Taper off the shade by the time you reach the 1st descender and draw the remaining part of the down stroke as a hairline. It will add delicacy to the turn at the bottom and make it easier to get the almost shape of the counter.

The positive thing in all the 'problem' areas you noted is that you already know how to fix these.

BTW - the low entry hairlines in 'nymph' aren't all that bad. They do flow in smoothly rather than impaling the following shade - this smoothness is what we are looking for. Ideally they should meet about halfway up the x-height but the most important element is the continuity of flow which you have achieved nicely.

The 'm-n' join in 'hymn' is a thing of beauty.

Wishing you a quick and full recovery so we get to enjoy more of your work.

- Salman
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His philosophy regarding textbooks
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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 2
« Last post by NevadaDeb on September 22, 2018, 11:57:17 AM »
Eyes clearing up a bit this morning. One more stab at it. Self Assessment.
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I had it framed and have started to learn more about Professor Wing. It seems he ran a school in Akron, Ohio for a while. In advertisements in 1867 he claims that he throws away textbooks in favor of the students actually learning directly (presumably by doing rather than memorizing).

The school was called both the "Academic, Commercial and Fine Art Institute" and then later in that year, the Morning Sun Institute.

It sounds like he was a bit eccentric in his notions. "The real and only high branches of an education, are Penmanship, Music, Drawing and Painting."   Of course, he also taught bookkeeping.

Prior to 1867 it seems he was a private tutor as several of his testimonials are from families who used him to teach their children, especially penmanship.

He seems like a fun topic and I look forward to learning more about this extraordinary man.

Meanwhile, here are some close-up images from the ad. I thought y'all would particularly appreciate the poem at the top. It's pure, 19th-century cheese!

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