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Coffee & Nib-bles / Thank you very phonetic
« on: June 02, 2015, 02:36:00 PM »
I just had an amusing thought: rendering various languages' versions of the term "thank you very much" phonetically in English. To start, here are my attempts – please feel free to add:

  • Afrikaans: Buy a donkey (baie dankie)
  • German: Feelin' dunk (vielen Dank) or Dunk a shin (danke schφn)
  • Spanish: Moo chows grass yes (muchas gracias)
  • Dutch: Dunk yer Val (dank je wel)
Any takers?

Coffee & Nib-bles / Re: Teach us how to say something in your language(s)!
« on: December 17, 2014, 11:08:41 AM »
Another interesting Afrikaans idiosyncrasy: the double negative is just a normal, unemphatic negative.

An example:
"Ek het nie gepraat nie." Literally, "I did not speak not." Grammatical English: "I did not speak."

Emphatic negative:
"Ek het beslis nie gepraat nie." – "I definitely did not speak."

Coffee & Nib-bles / Re: Teach us how to say something in your language(s)!
« on: December 16, 2014, 05:44:52 AM »
Natascha, I guess it's a Germanic thing, then. Is there something similar in other Germanic languages? I would imagine you would find it in Dutch and Flemish as well, since they've had a major influence in the development of Afrikaans.

Coffee & Nib-bles / Re: Teach us how to say something in your language(s)!
« on: December 15, 2014, 12:24:43 PM »
A unique expression in Afrikaans is "ja-nee" (pronounced yah-near, but with the "r" silent), literally meaning yes-no. It is used when you agree in a resigned fashion. I would respond with "ja-nee", for example, to a statement like "Looks like the world is populated with idiots."

Coffee & Nib-bles / Re: The "What's Up" Thread
« on: December 15, 2014, 11:19:40 AM »
Hi Natascha

From my heart, my deepest sympathy. I understand how you feel, because I am also going through a very painful episode right now, and like you I am teetering on the brink of that dark pit.

Embrace your loved ones – they are what will carry you through the gloom, and I bet they really want to. Focus on what is right in your life, and not on what is wrong. And get lots of rest – there is nothing better for beating the blues.

Allow your cyber-friends here and your real ones at home to help you carry this burden.

Warm wishes, and my hope that tomorrow the sun will shine for you again.

Coffee & Nib-bles / Re: Calligraphy confessions
« on: December 14, 2014, 04:05:26 AM »
In primary school, I was singled out as the boy with the untidiest handwriting in the entire school. I often wonder if that is what made me take up calligraphy as a hobby.

Show & Tell / Re: Mock "Witness Statement"
« on: December 14, 2014, 02:50:13 AM »
Fantastic work, Ken, and congratulations on the achievement.

Looking at your "statement" I could imagine the circumstances:

It was a time when few people could actually write. This particular scribe would have trained for years, and his mastery of the art is evident in his elegant lettering. Like you, given the chance, he would have much rather have produced a carefully penned artistically beautiful document, but the moment called for something quick and functional. However, being the artist he was, he could not resist adding the occasional flourish to a descender.

Well done, sir.

Open Flourish | General Discussion / With Iron Resolve
« on: November 25, 2014, 01:16:03 PM »
"Absolutely not," I said. "Out of the question – get someone else."
"But it's not that many," she replied. "And we'll pay you the same we pay our usual calligrapher."
"How many?" I asked, despite myself. "Not that it matters – I'm not doing it."
"I'm not sure; I'll have to check," she said. "But it will be easy – it only a name and the date on each certificate."

Easy. Yeah, right. And by easy you mean using actual pen and ink, something I have done very little of over the past three decades. By easy you mean finding time in an already tight schedule, perhaps moving some prior commitment. By easy you mean pouring my very soul onto the paper, leaving it open and vulnerable for all see and, who knows, perhaps even sneer at.

When I took up calligraphy again after my almost-thirty-years break, I promised myself that this time I was doing it for myself, for my own pleasure and nothing else. I would write when I felt like it, and put my pens aside when I felt like it. No clients, no deadlines, no pressure – just my own enjoyment.

It was this selfish resolve that was now surfacing. I refused. No arguments, no appeal, no begging could sway me. I was not going to do it, and that – as far as I was concerned – was that. I would not capitulate, I would not reconsider, and I would give the request nothing but the disdain it deserved. I was that determined.

But I wrote them anyway.

Introductions / Re: Hello from South Africa
« on: November 18, 2014, 01:13:05 PM »
Thanks for the welcome messages.

Lyndsay, I live in Pretoria and work in Rosebank, Joburg. My wife works in Midrand.  :)

..the notes you take in a meeting are beautiful but useless, because you are more concerned about how you write than what you write.

Introductions / Hello from South Africa
« on: November 17, 2014, 02:40:50 PM »
Hi  there

I look forward to sharing my passion with like-minded people.

A few words about my background: I started teaching myself calligraphy in my early twenties, but because my priorities changed after I got married, I spent less and less time practicing until I stopped altogether. Fast-forward a quarter of a century, to when I discovered the iPad app Calligraphy Art (more about this in a future post). I promptly bought it, and it rekindled my interest to the point that I went out and bought new pens to replace my now long-lost original ones. In the immortal words of Arnie: "I am back".

How I discovered this forum: I used to own a copy of the Speedball Text Book (from which I learned most of the hands I can write). I decided to try to determine which edition, and after some searching and correlating dates, I came to the conclusion that it was the 21st edition. An image search led me to a post in this forum, with the result that (with due apologies to Julius Ceasar) – Veni, Vidi, and I decided to stick around.

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