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Oh my gosh, I am experiencing this so much both with my lettering and with my graphic design work. I have really good taste but I don't have the experience yet.

I 'pin' loads of successful designs but then when I do my own designs, I usually end up disappointed with them. They don't live up to my own standards. I try to go back and rework them. Like Ira Glass says, I just have to keep doing the work and eventually I'll catch up.

I think I've seen this but it was great to re-watch. Thank you for the motivation!

Great idea! I posted earlier about my hand hurting. We might have some of this already, I'm off to look...

Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: help! my hand really hurts!
« on: February 14, 2014, 11:12:30 AM »
Thanks everyone! I think that the angle of the oblique pen was throwing me off so I was holding it differently than I do a normal pen. I'm going to try to hold the pen more naturally and lightly. Also watch more videos and study how they use the pen. After I practice again today I will report back!

Also Erika I am going to try that trick! It sounds like it's so crazy it just might work!


Open Flourish | General Discussion / help! my hand really hurts!
« on: February 12, 2014, 09:02:32 PM »
So I'm finally starting to learn pointed pen, and so far I've had 3 practice sessons. I'm working on Lesson 1 in the tutorials and just trying to go over the basic strokes.

I'm having some problems though. When I write, my hand hurts. I just had to end early because my hand hurt too much. When I write with a regular pen, I can write forever, so I know I'm doing something wrong with the oblique pen. It feels very awkward and I'm constantly adjusting it. Even though I've read about and looked at diagrams on 'the correct angle' to put your paper at in relation to the pen, I am still confused about how exactly to sit, what angle to hold the nib at, etc. My pen 'rests' on my ring finger in my hand and now my ring finger really hurts. I think subconsciously I might grip the pen harder when I press down but I'm trying to hold it more loosely.

So yes, I think I need remedial lessons on pen holding 101. Anyone have any suggestions?

Letter Pixels / Re: Mac vs. PC for design work
« on: February 11, 2014, 10:19:43 PM »
Hi Chantelle,
I'm a graphic design student and have a Macbook. I have a white Macbook that I bought just before they phased them out. I love it and I'm hoping that it lasts me a while (luckily Macs usually do).

I'm going to agree with vince though. It's important to take your own preferences into consideration -- not mine. Would your design work be for a hobby or for a career? If you just want to use Illustrator and Photoshop from time to time then the type of computer doesn't matter. Traditionally Macs were better for design work but the truth is that PC has made a lot of progress and nowadays there is probably not much difference. My design classroom is stocked with shiny iMacs but some students go home to work on their PCs. So in short, I would weigh out the pros and cons of the two and take other things into consideration.

Introductions / Re: Hi from Ontario, Canada!
« on: February 09, 2014, 10:04:37 PM »
Hi micaela,
I'm a newbie too...don't worry, there are a lot of us.

(The answer, by the way, is pointed. The tutorials in the forum are for pointed Copperplate...if this still sounds gibberish don't worry as you'll pick up the terms quickly. I'd recommend looking around the forums, checking out are a lot of free resources out there.)

Introductions / Re: Hello from Utah!
« on: February 07, 2014, 08:21:46 PM »
Welcome Brittany!

That's so funny because I remember learning Gothic calligraphy in 6th grade too. I remember writing an award for Abraham Lincoln for a school project or something like that.

So beautiful! Love the calligraphy style. I could really use some flowers about now too.

Digital Design / Re: Preparing Calligraphy for Printing
« on: January 31, 2014, 01:02:04 PM »
No worries - just making me aware of that feature is enough! I'm mostly self taught in Photoshop and get around it pretty well. This video is a great starting off point for getting us going and giving us basic tips.

Digital Design / Re: Preparing Calligraphy for Printing
« on: January 29, 2014, 09:21:22 PM »
This is great! I bring my lettering into Photoshop and do some of the same things but now I see I do them the hard way. Your way is much better! I did not know about threshold and color overlay...amazing! I can use those all the time.

Ha! Glad you liked, Ellen.

Introductions / Re: greetings from chicago
« on: January 29, 2014, 08:58:31 PM »
I don't belong to the Chicago guild yet but I'll keep my eye on the site. I am such a beginner to calligraphy that it's all new. That's awesome that the IAMPETH conference is in Indy. I'd love to go if I'm able.

Flourish Forum News / Re: BON ANNIVERSAIRE !!!
« on: January 29, 2014, 08:53:14 PM »
Happy Birthday!! So glad you've had a good day!

I'm going to respectfully disagree with her. And…I have strong feelings about this so be forewarned!

I am a graphic design student and a huge perfectionist. I have a good sense of design and can look at my current work and be very dissatisfied with it. However, I am not going to let that hold me back. I started a 365 project this year to force myself to produce work constantly and share it. If I did not have the project I would probably not be doing the work, to be honest. It's very motivating for me.

I don't see the internet as unforgiving as Barbara says. I have not received criticism for my work, but rather encouragement. If anything my own self criticism is more than anything other people can throw at me. I'd say that imperfect work is still art and can be more interesting than perfect calligraphy to the average eye. Actually, I find imperfections beautiful.

Great artists like Picasso had early work too as everyone has to start somewhere. And it is still celebrated. I went to the Picasso museum in Barcelona and it focused on his early work…it had drawings from when he was 12 and showed his development. Nobody looked at his early sketches and said, "No no, this is not museum worthy, this is nothing!" because everyone knows who he grew to become. Seeing his process was amazing, something I will never forget. The idea that we should start in dark caves keeping everything to ourselves and not emerge until we have completed a masterpiece is so…backwards.

I think that in this fast-paced world, it's important to start building a platform as soon as possible! Austin Kleon talks about this in his book "Show Your Work" (which I have not read because it's not out yet, but I have read interviews about, ha). He basically says to share your process because people love seeing the juicy messy details of creative work.

So, my two cents.


Introductions / Re: greetings from chicago
« on: January 29, 2014, 04:23:54 PM »
Hi! I'm from Chicago too! Or, actually West suburbs (Lisle). So I feel your pain weather-wise. Winter has been especially brutal this year. If it's not sub 0*F temperatures it's snowing! Wish I were somewhere tropical.

I'm in school for graphic design. I like having creative hobbies as well. Calligraphy pairs well with design I think - knowing one helps the other. It does take a while to learn as you say! But that's awesome that you're practicing every day. For me that's a different story...

- Kathleen

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