Hi, all, Thank you for these wonderful replies. My house is about three miles west of the Maryland State Park on Assateague Island, a few miles farther north from Assateague National Seashore down Bayberry Drive from there, and about fifteen minutes' drive south of Ocean City, Maryland. I have been "doing" Spencerian for about eight years with spotty success and have taken two courses in it, as well as one course in Engrossers' Script. Calligraphy started for me, however, more than forty years ago with the Chancery hand. I own so many fountain pens modified for Italic I have lost count of them. Now I've lost count of my oblique penholders, too. Trazo, the course you are taking sounds excellent but a little elementary for me (at least in some of its parts--not as if we all couldn't use regular reviews of the basics.)