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Offline AAAndrew

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That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« on: March 21, 2017, 12:49:21 PM »
The pen on the right is a Gillott 303. The one in the middle is an Esterbrook 048 Falcon. The beast on the left is an Esterbrook 340 Mammoth Falcon.

There's no way to really get the size across in pictures.

In the second picture, on top is a Wm Mitchell "G" which is similar in size to a modern Zebra G, on the bottom is the Gillott 303, and then second from the top is the 048 Falcon, which is normally considered a rather large nib, and the then Andre the Giant of the nib world.

These do not fit into regular holders. I just happen to have two very odd holders (modern plastic ones) without markings that they fit into perfectly. Very strange. These nibs are also rare enough that most people don't bother inking them up. But I had one with some touches of rust on it, and a holder that fits, so I did try it out.  ;D

Overall, it's a nicely fine and fairly flexible nib. But your hand sits so far away from the paper, more than a half-inch further than with a regular falcon, that you can't write with much control. I'm not even bothering showing the lame attempts.

I could see using it for off-hand flourishing, but writing is just too awkward unless you are Andre the Giant.

Anyway, thought I'd do a little show and tell of a rare and unusual nib.
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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2017, 01:06:18 PM »
OMG!!  That is huge!  Wow.  Thanks for sharing.  Dang. 

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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2017, 01:06:38 PM »
We're gonna need a banana, or a hand or penny for scale.. that nib looks huge!!
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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2017, 01:25:18 PM »
It's 2 3/8" or 6 centimeters long. At it's widest it's .47" or 12mm. The shank is 8mm or 1/3" wide.

In comparison, a Spencerian #1 is about 1.3" or 33mm long.

It's crazy big.
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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2017, 01:53:00 PM »
We're gonna need a banana, or a hand or penny for scale.. that nib looks huge!!
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There you go.
Huge it is.

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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2017, 01:54:18 PM »
BAHAHA

Okay yes with so much irrefutable proof it is certainly a large nib indeed
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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2017, 02:01:22 PM »
Oh, the advantages of not being in an office. I had neither a coin nor a banana.

What really flabbergasts me is that you put it into an oblique holder!!! 

That's just wrong. Unnatural. Disturbing.  :o

But love the picture.
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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2017, 02:13:17 PM »
Oh, the advantages of not being in an office. I had neither a coin nor a banana.
One must always have a coin and banana handy for just these occasions.

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What really flabbergasts me is that you put it into an oblique holder!!! 
With a little help from Yoke Pen Co. flange pliers.

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That's just wrong. Unnatural. Disturbing.  :o
Similar things have been said of my work not infrequently.

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But love the picture.

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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2017, 06:27:33 PM »
How's this?
Leon Isaacs Lady Falcon (same size as the Esterbrook Lady Falcon, and I had one in my traveling nib box)
Standard 048 Esterbrook Falcon
Esterbrook Mammoth Falcon

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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2017, 09:37:34 PM »
Wow!  That nib is HUGE!!

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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2017, 09:31:38 AM »
Thanks AAAndrew. I have no reason to fix the large one.  The #7 is as big and usable.  #8 or #10 IMHO is just plain Crazy.


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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2017, 11:51:44 AM »
That is insane!!

Overall, it's a nicely fine and fairly flexible nib. But your hand sits so far away from the paper, more than a half-inch further than with a regular falcon, that you can't write with much control. I'm not even bothering showing the lame attempts.
I still think a video of it in action would be rather interesting to watch, though :P
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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2017, 12:31:40 PM »
Well, I do understand why they named it Mammoth  ;D

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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2017, 03:12:27 PM »
We're going to need a bigger boat penholder!  ;D
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Re: That's not a nib, now THAT'S a nib!
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2017, 03:14:53 PM »
That is insane!!

Overall, it's a nicely fine and fairly flexible nib. But your hand sits so far away from the paper, more than a half-inch further than with a regular falcon, that you can't write with much control. I'm not even bothering showing the lame attempts.
I still think a video of it in action would be rather interesting to watch, though :P
Well, if I knew how to make and upload videos, I'd make one.
This nib is not very sharp and quite stiff, so not really useful for flourishing. Despite its size, I can make wider shades with several different nibs. Also, because of its size, it can hold quite a bit of ink, and if you use it with a thin ink, like walnut, its easy to blob it. A little thicker ink works better. Not hard to use in an oblique holder once you get used to it. There were specific straight holders made for it, although haven't seen an oblique made for it--no reason to, I guess. More of a curiosity piece.