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First Post for Critique!
« on: January 03, 2016, 06:27:10 AM »
Hi guys!
Hope you guys don't mind the mediocre work
First time posting this for Critique!
Looking to hone my skills more! Suggestions are welcomed!
First time attempting flourishing (though I may have done more than one practise for this picture haha)
Saw Dr vitolo's post on it and attempted this :)
HAPPY NEW YEAR :)

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Re: First Post for Critique!
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2016, 10:26:55 AM »
Mediocre??  Whatever!  ;D

I think you're on to something here!

I'm going to offer one piece of advice: try to be consistent in the heights of your letters, ascenders, and descenders.  Make sure that the minuscules go the full x-height.  For example: the first loop in your w on "New" does not go all the way down to the baseline and your two p's in "Happy" are different heights as well.

You're off to an excellent start!!  Please keep us updated on your progress!
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Re: First Post for Critique!
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2016, 12:04:51 PM »
Great start! You have the letter shapes down well. As Elizabeth said, the consistency of the letter heights would be a good place to concentrate for improvement. It's difficult to do with dotted paper and not lines. It's OK to have different heights on the double p's as long as it looks intentional, coupled with consistency otherwise.

Great first try for the bird flourish too. Like lettering, the birds are made up of individual strokes which build to create the image. My first attempt didn't look this good!  ;)
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Re: First Post for Critique!
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2016, 06:22:08 PM »
Mediocre??  Whatever!  ;D

I think you're on to something here!

I'm going to offer one piece of advice: try to be consistent in the heights of your letters, ascenders, and descenders.  Make sure that the minuscules go the full x-height.  For example: the first loop in your w on "New" does not go all the way down to the baseline and your two p's in "Happy" are different heights as well.

You're off to an excellent start!!  Please keep us updated on your progress!

Hi Elizabeth!
Thanks for your wonderful comments :)
It does means I need to practise with guidelines more often right? Just to confirm, the height:x height:descender is 3:2:3 right?
Will heed your advice and continue working hard! :)

Great start! You have the letter shapes down well. As Elizabeth said, the consistency of the letter heights would be a good place to concentrate for improvement. It's difficult to do with dotted paper and not lines. It's OK to have different heights on the double p's as long as it looks intentional, coupled with consistency otherwise.

Great first try for the bird flourish too. Like lettering, the birds are made up of individual strokes which build to create the image. My first attempt didn't look this good!  ;)

Hi Erica!
I was using the dot paper for it to be a nicer looking photo haha perhaps that my down fall :/

Wow! Will keep trying to improve my work and post my practise in here!
Thanks alot :))))

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Re: First Post for Critique!
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2016, 12:46:22 AM »
Hey once again! :)
Been doing some practise on basic skills!
Just have a few question on these few strokes:
1. The 'O'  is suppose to be an oval shaped right?long and thin? If you start from the top (xheight)  you will have to end it there right? But when you are writing an O there is an additional dot slightly below the x height, do you guys do it in one stroke(original stroke drawing the circle)  or two separate strokes(circle then dot)
2.for ascender and descender, is 3:2:3 ration enough? For my practise (as shown below)  my strokes tends to look abit fat? Should I change the ration to 2:1:2 or just increase the size of the x height (it's 3mm)
Any suggestions are welcomed! :)
Thanks in advance :)


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Re: First Post for Critique!
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2016, 09:29:57 AM »
hi,
Great work on the basics.  The patience you have to do these drills will pay off for sure   ;D

I am a newbie on here too and these are suggestions that I got from the forum and helped me a lot for practise.

Firstly,  please get the x height larger.  3 mm is too small to focus on the shape.  A good size to start will be at least 6mm x height.
Again start of with a 2:1:2 ratio so that the stroke formation is comfortable. Making longer strokes for ascenders and descenders will help in practise.   Once there is control on the pen and pressure the sizes and ratios can be varied.

getting to your queries:

1) the dreaded "o" and ovals  :)  Yes its supposed to be long and thin.  Typically the total width of the letter should be ½ the height.  so 6mm x height means a 3mm width of the letter.
You have two places you can start.  The way you have mentioned is one.  The other is'
Start about ¼ way down on the far right.  Move pen up with no pressure forming the top of the "o",
continue the shape on the left side, slowly increasing pressure till about ½ way down
Start releasing pressure and have no pressure by the time you reach the bottom.
Continue up to join where you started. 
I find this give a better thin thick progression.  The additional dot where the connector goes is the second stroke. Separate from the Oval forming stroke.


The reason letters tend to look fat is due to ratio of height to width.  This must be ½ or less.  You can make guidelines that give you slants more closely placed (at ½ x height).  I have explained the process to get that in this thread
http://theflourishforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=3322.msg45957#msg45957  (reply#4)

Hope this is helpful..
Great work so far, particularly the bird flourish.  Love that

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Re: First Post for Critique!
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2016, 05:33:07 AM »
Hi prasad!
Thanks for answering all my queries! :)
Just got another question, for the guidelines maker, is it correct for me to put 4 per inch? For 6mm according to your formula? So there's only like 9 lines per page?
Thanks alot once again!!! :)

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Re: First Post for Critique!
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2016, 06:07:43 AM »
4 per inch is good.  That is what I am using to practise now.
you can keep the setting like below:

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