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Tools & Supplies / Re: Curv-E Holder - New Oblique Pen Holder
« on: October 11, 2021, 01:11:53 AM »
I’m sorry I never saw this @Lyric ! I think I have 5 so far. They are really the only pens I use now. I don’t like to take the nibs in or out either so I put different ones in each one.  ;D

I would not mind a short handled one. Last I visited seems he is no longer making them kinda sorta.  There were none available.  But, it has been a while. I baby mine compared to the other holders.  They are in a cup when not in use.  My Curv-E is kinda in my way because I keep it sideways in the groove of my water cup which is on my desk.  The long pointy handle really gets in my way.  Would have purchased a short handle style IF he would have sold one.

This thread has me wanting to actually pay attention to the fine lady's signature.  Wondering what is so spectacular about it.

Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Spencerian Envelope from 1963
« on: October 07, 2021, 08:09:37 AM »
At one point, New York city had 9 deliveries a day--1905--a bit before my time. But I do remember morning and afternoon deliveries of newspapers in the 1950's. Our local post office (Bradford, NH, pop. 625) still had mint stamps for sale of the Presidential Series (1938) in the late '50's and early 60's. Different times.

My how times have indeed changed.  Within last several weeks at least two days the postal individual did not even stop at our house.  I know because I had outgoing letters that sat in the receptacle.  ???

Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: When did Flourish Forum start??
« on: September 26, 2021, 04:10:52 PM »

Thank you for your kind words! It really does take the pressure off to just learn for your own enjoyment. And then perhaps once you know this is something you are truly vested in, then comes the business side if you so desire. We are very glad you delved into calligraphy deeper and became such a valuable part of our community!  :-*

Not sure if you remember, but several months back a friend asked me to address envelopes for her daughter's baby shower.  I was SO stressed with the whole proposal.  Knowing I was not up to the task was probably the reason why.  IG buds commented "She has seen your calligraphy if she did not like it she would not have asked."  That made sense, so on I went trying to answer her seemingly simple question, "How much will you charge?"  Fast forwarding I was SO relieved when she came back with the message that "her daughter decided against my 'services'.  She felt the money could be better spent."  Hallelujah!!  I was SO relieved.  Should that EVER happen again I know how to respond.  Off the rip, "No, thank you.  But, I can point you in the direction of a wonderful calligrapher."


Word of the Day / Re: Inktober 2021
« on: September 26, 2021, 03:53:05 PM »

I don't think you will regret it. And if you like it, maybe try Pride and Prejudice next - it's one of my all time favorites!

The book in my Amazon cart with the letters is P & P.  :D

growing segment of newcomers who bridged the gap by starting with modern calligraphy and then decided they wanted to go deeper and learn traditional styles.

So does it matter? Some would say no as we always need to adapt and change with the times, and like it or not, this is how it works in our world today. I would argue it matters a great deal. It isn't about the differences between us, it's about the quality of work we produce and share with others. It's how what we do effects not just us, but an entire industry. As a calligrapher, I have always felt a great responsibility to do my best to help preserve the integrity of both the craft and the trade.

However, I hope people will take an honest look at their work, solicit constructive and forthright feedback from other professionals, and ask themselves if they can offer a quality service and product which upholds the value of not just the market, but the trade as well.

What a profound blog post @Erica McPhee and a joy to read.

My first online six month class was modern.  Within two weeks I realized what I wanted was not so I switched to pointed pen (though the course was still modern she instructed with brush and pointed pen) and I pushed through the end knowing I needed to find what I found out was called "copperplate".

I was relieved that my interests were purely self-edification vs. business.  It has taken pressure off of me for I know the time it would take me to rise to such a standard I shall probably not live that long being almost 62 now.

So glad FF is a real, thriving entity.  Thanks for all that you are doing, Ms. M.

Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: When did Flourish Forum start??
« on: September 26, 2021, 08:02:39 AM »
From the looks of things over here I can not imagine not visiting here.  It is a must.  Some days I feel my writing has improved a few I do not  ::).  Recently deleted FB and deactivated IG (for a mental break); but FF - It is a gem; a keeper.  ;)

I feel FF has authenticity, class, a seriousness that I embrace.

Jane Austen Letters

A really neat article.

I have never read a JA book instead opting for video versions.  I believe this book shall change that.  Thank you for sharing the link.  What an excellent idea Ms. H. came up with. 

Yessss, found it on Amazon!  In my cart.

Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Spencerian Envelope from 1963
« on: September 26, 2021, 07:40:51 AM »

It was written by Cephas Riley from Clifton Tennessee (scratched return address on the back). According to the 1940 census, he was born in 1889 so he was 74. I just love thinking about where did Mr. Riley learn to do Spencerian? How old was he when he learned?

This is interesting.  What was your source for a 1940 census?  Would I simply Google "1940 Census"?  I wonder about familial information.


Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Alternative to dip pen
« on: September 19, 2021, 05:59:02 PM »
Wow these are beautiful pens! I took a cheaper route and ordered a Noodlers Ahab Flex fountain pen that is suppose to give the same line contrast as a traditional point pen. Looking forward to trying it out. Have you heard of/tried those?

I bit; not impressed with my Ahab.

For the best hairlines with copperplate, Engrosser’s script, or Roundhand, mixing dry gum Arabic into your ink is the way to go.  That will thicken your ink something wonderful. The late Bill Lilly (master penman, and last Zanerian graduate) thickened his ink to where it was the consistency of thick of honey.

Having such a difficult time with the concept of THICKENING with GA for wispy hairline strokes.

2021 Exchanges / Re: Pop Up Exchange 2021 Sign Ups are Now Closed
« on: August 28, 2021, 01:07:01 AM »
THIS would have been a ball.  Perhaps I can keep up with such things starting next month after ghosting Instagram.  Only so much time in the day for SM.  Thinking it will be a good rest.



I am still chugging along with it ALL.  Ha ha.

Started Becca's Show Me Your Letters.  Can't get away from thinking my time would be better spent on business penmanship.  So, that's what I'm a gonna do!

Hope your year has been okay as possible and mostly that you are staying well and far away from pandemic germies.



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