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Copperplate, Engrosser's Script, Roundhand Calligraphy / Re: There's so much to learn and how can I share calligraphy
« on: November 07, 2015, 01:28:26 PM »
Yes! Today I am writing out some stuff from Harry Potter. =]
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Yes! Today I am writing out some stuff from Harry Potter. =]
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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Not Copperplate and not cursive...what is it?
« on: November 06, 2015, 08:22:10 PM »
I can't answer exactly what you are asking but I'll say I received the cookbooks Erica suggested recently and they are great! Very straight forward.
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Find a Pen Pal / Re: Pen Pals Anyone?
« on: November 06, 2015, 05:40:57 PM »I would like to, just my level is not at the highest yet, so i understand if looking for more pals with a more finished hand. But im always willing to try 😁
Noah
No worries about skill! I'm just a beginner myself. Feel free to send me a message.
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Find a Pen Pal / Re: Pen Pals Anyone?
« on: November 06, 2015, 02:52:30 PM »
Great! Feel free to send me a message if you haven't already.
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Find a Pen Pal / Re: Pen Pals Anyone?
« on: November 06, 2015, 01:55:40 PM »
Great! I just sent you a reply.
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Find a Pen Pal / Pen Pals Anyone?
« on: November 06, 2015, 01:06:44 PM »
I'm hoping to get some practice in and this seems like a great way to do that. It'd be fun to converse with others around the world through snail mail, my favorite mode of communication. It somehow seems so much more personal and special.
Anyways, does anyone want to start writing some letters? We could write anything at random or discuss topics, send quotes or poems. Whatever works really!
Anyways, does anyone want to start writing some letters? We could write anything at random or discuss topics, send quotes or poems. Whatever works really!
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Spencerian Script / Re: Writing spencerian letters
« on: November 06, 2015, 01:02:27 PM »
Beautiful!
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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Not Copperplate and not cursive...what is it?
« on: November 06, 2015, 09:31:27 AM »
Thanks again! I appreciate all of your comments and suggestions. I did go ahead and order the Spencerian copy books and theory book. I'm excited to start practicing.
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Tools & Supplies / Re: Brause 66EFand Oblique Holder Issue
« on: November 05, 2015, 09:24:55 PM »
Quick update: I got the nib situation figured out. It's just a bit finicky but the more I work with it, the better it gets.
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Tools & Supplies / Brause 66EFand Oblique Holder Issue
« on: November 05, 2015, 08:41:49 PM »
I recently received an oblique pen holder with the Brause 66EF nib on it as a birthday gift. I am having so much trouble getting the ink to flow with it. Any idea what might cause such an issue?
Below is the description of the pen holder I have. How can I change the nib in case I can't get this one to work? I have a Nikko G and Gillot 404 in addition to the Brause 66EF. Both of which were listed as compatible with the holder.
"H54. 5/8in (Thicker) Adjusted Century Oblique Penholder
5/8" Century Oblique Pen Holder--- Joe Vitolo has modified the design of the Century Oblique Holder. The thicker holder may reduce hand fatigue. The penholders are adjusted to the nib you would like to use. A nib is included with each holder." It is from John Neal Books which is where this description comes from.
As always, thank you for any advice you can provide.
Below is the description of the pen holder I have. How can I change the nib in case I can't get this one to work? I have a Nikko G and Gillot 404 in addition to the Brause 66EF. Both of which were listed as compatible with the holder.
"H54. 5/8in (Thicker) Adjusted Century Oblique Penholder
5/8" Century Oblique Pen Holder--- Joe Vitolo has modified the design of the Century Oblique Holder. The thicker holder may reduce hand fatigue. The penholders are adjusted to the nib you would like to use. A nib is included with each holder." It is from John Neal Books which is where this description comes from.
As always, thank you for any advice you can provide.
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Flourishing / Re: Flourishes- am I doing this right?
« on: November 04, 2015, 01:54:06 PM »
Yes, thank you! The first link you posted doesn't work though I don't have Facebook so I'm not sure I would be able to view it anyways.
I knew there had to be a method though it does/can seem random. I will add this to the list of what I want to practice. It seems the list grows faster than I can practice! But this all makes for some good goals.
I knew there had to be a method though it does/can seem random. I will add this to the list of what I want to practice. It seems the list grows faster than I can practice! But this all makes for some good goals.
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Flourishing / Flourishes- am I doing this right?
« on: November 04, 2015, 01:33:34 PM »
I hope this isn't too naive but with flourishing, specifically on a name, can I essentially make something up? I've been playing around with capital letters and names. I practice a "layout" for how I want it to look, sketching it in different forms, until I find balance and unity. Then I go for it. Is this an acceptable method? Is there a rhyme or reason to flourishes? Lastly, should I think about this more methodically or do basic design principles apply here?
Thank you for any advice you can provide!
Thank you for any advice you can provide!
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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: The way forward?
« on: November 04, 2015, 01:10:18 PM »
By the way, I typed this on my tiny phone so I just noticed some errors. Hopefully they aren't so drastic that you can't understand what I meant.
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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: The way forward?
« on: November 04, 2015, 01:06:32 PM »
I'm not really an authority on the topic of calligraphy but maybe I can lend the perspective of a beginner. What I'm saying here may not fully be a response to what you said or may go off on some tangents but here are my thoughts as I read and immediately after.
At first glance I entirely agreed with what you were saying but then I realized what the benefit of modern calligraphy is. I'll start by explaining my journey so far within calligraphy. I used to write with what I referred to as my feather pen. It was a feather with a bib. I used the worst possible ink and wrote on cheap college ruled notebook paper. I generally write with a fountain pen that does not have a flexible nib. I like the feel of it.
One day on Pinterest I came across some modern calligraphy examples and thought, "beautiful! That must have been so hard to learn!" I quickly search for lessons and came across this forum. I decided to learn Copperplate first because I had myself combined that modern calligraphy was hard. After some practice I gave it a try. I didn't find it to be super easy but instead realized that though it may seem like it's quick to learn and anyone can do it I noticed that isn't exactly the case. There are some "rules." You still have to be careful about your forms and the way you connect each letter or you just may end up writing something unintentionally inappropriate.
The other thing that comes to mind is this. It may be "easy" to pick up quickly in a sense but seeing modern calligraphy is what initially motivated me to give it a try. It's what brought me to the field. Of course I took the initiative to learn more but it ha sits benefits in the world. I don't think it should be thought of as easy or lazy. I think it is a tool that can be used to spread the love of calligraphy
Okay, my last point is on selling works for others. Someone who learns some quick calligraphy (excuse my term- I know that's not the best way to refer to it but fits what I'm saying here) and then how son to sell some invitations might make a dollar or two but really, will their work stand? Not without practice. I like to think that hat the general public does understand art in various forms to the point that they would recognize the difference between something good and bad. Maybe not everyone will but those who are seeking quality over quick and cheap will see the difference. I don't think someone who learned some quick and easy calligraphy will stand the test of time from a business standpoint unless they strive to learn more.
Okay, I'm sure I've forgotten something, went off on at least one tangent, and probably said too much but I wanted to lend my perspective as a beginner. I realize I'm speaking from the point of view from someone that has been striving to learn more rather than taking the easy way out but I think for many others this will apply too. Good art work will stand up. Okay. I've continued rambling. I hope this all makes sense.
At first glance I entirely agreed with what you were saying but then I realized what the benefit of modern calligraphy is. I'll start by explaining my journey so far within calligraphy. I used to write with what I referred to as my feather pen. It was a feather with a bib. I used the worst possible ink and wrote on cheap college ruled notebook paper. I generally write with a fountain pen that does not have a flexible nib. I like the feel of it.
One day on Pinterest I came across some modern calligraphy examples and thought, "beautiful! That must have been so hard to learn!" I quickly search for lessons and came across this forum. I decided to learn Copperplate first because I had myself combined that modern calligraphy was hard. After some practice I gave it a try. I didn't find it to be super easy but instead realized that though it may seem like it's quick to learn and anyone can do it I noticed that isn't exactly the case. There are some "rules." You still have to be careful about your forms and the way you connect each letter or you just may end up writing something unintentionally inappropriate.
The other thing that comes to mind is this. It may be "easy" to pick up quickly in a sense but seeing modern calligraphy is what initially motivated me to give it a try. It's what brought me to the field. Of course I took the initiative to learn more but it ha sits benefits in the world. I don't think it should be thought of as easy or lazy. I think it is a tool that can be used to spread the love of calligraphy
Okay, my last point is on selling works for others. Someone who learns some quick calligraphy (excuse my term- I know that's not the best way to refer to it but fits what I'm saying here) and then how son to sell some invitations might make a dollar or two but really, will their work stand? Not without practice. I like to think that hat the general public does understand art in various forms to the point that they would recognize the difference between something good and bad. Maybe not everyone will but those who are seeking quality over quick and cheap will see the difference. I don't think someone who learned some quick and easy calligraphy will stand the test of time from a business standpoint unless they strive to learn more.
Okay, I'm sure I've forgotten something, went off on at least one tangent, and probably said too much but I wanted to lend my perspective as a beginner. I realize I'm speaking from the point of view from someone that has been striving to learn more rather than taking the easy way out but I think for many others this will apply too. Good art work will stand up. Okay. I've continued rambling. I hope this all makes sense.
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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: My Exemplars
« on: November 04, 2015, 10:13:01 AM »
I just have to say, thank you! These are beautiful and motivating to learn so much more.