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Kind Critique / Re: Please help me with my Copperplate :)
« on: September 09, 2022, 11:43:23 AM »
I gues I'm just going to keep feeding this thread, I enjoy seeing others' progress so I figure my little ups and downs can be helpful too, maybe? ;)

Very slow progress right now, but I have considerably taken the pressure off of myself to improve, so as to not get all frustrated. So, a few drills after I've practiced other things, and a bit of writing.
I did a little piece too, for my cousin. Not perfect at all but the process of creating really helps gain some perspective :)
Also, I've given up on capitals for now, I just don't get them  :P

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Broad Edge Pen Calligraphy / Re: Script to go with illuminated letters
« on: September 04, 2022, 11:31:43 AM »
Here is my first project. Still so much to learn, but I'm having a blast ^^
Can't wait to learn Ronde :)

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Word of the Day / Re: Inktober 2022
« on: September 02, 2022, 04:18:26 AM »
OMG yes! I'm looking forward!
Thank you for the prompt :)
Looking forward very, very much!

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Kind Critique / Re: Please help me with my Copperplate :)
« on: September 01, 2022, 03:24:52 PM »
Hi Lucie,
Sometimes it is very worthwhile to take a small break and then come back to your calligraphy. It helps your muscles to rest and your muscle memory to embed into long term memory. Usually when you go back to it, you will start to see improvement again.

For oval drills, this is such a great question! I see so many “drills” on Pinterest and many of them are missing the point. The purpose of drills is to give your whole arm movement muscles a work out and to embed the oval shape and movements into your muscle memory. Some of the drills such as drawing little pictures is fun and does help with practicing shades and hairlines, it does nothing for your muscle movement as it requires small hand and finger movement.

Somewhere in my notes, I have some suggestions for timing, and how to do drills. I will take a look and post it when I find it.  ;D

Awww thank you Erica!
I was embarrassed by my question but now I feel that it isn't so silly after all :)
Thanks for the encouragement, I do think I will be doing progress when I pick it up again, hopefully this weekend!

Cheers!

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Flourishing / Re: More Practise
« on: September 01, 2022, 12:13:34 PM »
This is stunning! Thank you for sharing :)

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Kind Critique / Re: Please help me with my Copperplate :)
« on: September 01, 2022, 06:23:35 AM »
Hello everyone,

I hope you are well. I'm a bit stuck in my copperplate practice. I have put it off for a while after long practice sessions every day, as I was cramping up and not getting anywhere.

I would like to do oval drills, but I'm a bit overwhelmed. I was listening to the calligraphy podcast yesterday and in one episode the hosts mentioned that drills were often not explained nearly enough. I can't remember the exact words, maybe something along the lines of "the best-kept secret of calligraphy".

Now the internet is reeking with oval practice worksheets, and everyone is telling you to do the drills, but I'm not finding info on how to do them effectively. Would anyone one mind breaking down how they do their oval drills please? Does your elbow graze the desk for instance? do you do them bigger or smaller? do you practice with worksheets or just on blank paper (i prefer the latter).

Any tip would be lovely. Can you tell me what worked for you?

I'm a bit worried about being counterproductive by practicing the wrong way. And now I think I'm overthinking this ::)

Extra question: do you think it is ok to practice with a light box (to see the guidelines beneath extra well)? or does the fact this raises the writing surface by a few millimeters makes this bad for your movements and muscle memory?

As always, thank you for reading have a lovely rest of the day!  :)

Lucie

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Broad Edge Pen Calligraphy / Re: Script to go with illuminated letters
« on: September 01, 2022, 05:53:41 AM »
First experiment! I have been resurrecting my foundational, which I only ever learned as an introduction to calligraphy and not as an end in itself.
The shading and lining are lazy and make little sense, I was only focusing on the shapes.
I'm trying to write out the names of my friends' two baby brothers (Joshua and Isaiah) and want to make it into a frame-able final piece.

I'm going to keep experimenting and hopefully start learning Ronde in the near future :)

I will add that doing this is a lovely break from the rest of calligraphy practice. I don't know how I do it but when I practice Copperplate I'm all work and no play and after several months it can become quite discouraging. So this is a breath of fresh air :)

Thank you all for your help!

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Broad Edge Pen Calligraphy / Re: Script to go with illuminated letters
« on: August 28, 2022, 05:53:12 PM »
Hello everyone,

Once again I am amazed by the generosity on this forum. Thank you for your precious advice!

@K-2 Thank you for taking the time to make those lovely samples, this is really helping me think things through.

@Erica McPhee @jeanwilson, I think foundational is the way to go, and maybe learn Humanistic along the way at some point. I do tend to experiment this week. I am extremely encouraged by the help I have received here.

@Zivio thank you very much :)

I will be experimenting with everyone's suggestions and should be able to post my experiments in a few days.

Again, thank you very much!

Yours,

Lucie

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Broad Edge Pen Calligraphy / Script to go with illuminated letters
« on: August 26, 2022, 06:42:01 AM »
Hello everyone,

I would love to have advice on which script would go well with my illuminated letters. I'm just a beginner, attached are pictures of my very first experiments. On top of that I bought Tri Le's manual on Lombardi letters and my gold leaf and miniatum will arrive early September.

I'm pretty sure I want to make this my thing. I do practice copperplate on the side but I am having acute slantitis and need a break from slants and pointed pens.

Right now I'd like to do simple projects, like a name with an illuminated capital, the rest of the name with a broad edge script, and some flourished borders.

In the past I have studied foundational and could go back to it. I have done a lot of Italic too and have nibs of all sorts as well as parallel pens.

What would you feel would go well with my budding illuminated capitals?

Thanks for your help!

Lucie

P. S. My phone won't post attachments so here is the link to my Instagram post of my letters.

https://www.instagram.com/p/ChfAU1oNGv0/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


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Hello!
Thank you all for the fantastic recommendations! I have been checking all the links and books on my phone but wanted to reply when I was finally properly sitting behind a computer.
This Penna Volans website is amazing, and I don't mind it being online material. I might print the material I need. The whole point being to have some physical material to muse on.
I'm excited to go through all of this. As for books, I might go for the book by Claude Mediavilla as I am French and thus comfortable with this language :) And I'll check the availability of the others since most are second-hand or a bit difficult to get a hand on from what I see.

Thank you very much all @sybillevz @Erica McPhee @Estefa

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Hi everyone!

I have been learning copperplate for 6 month and I have a bunch of manuals and exemplars. However, I have heard over and over that studying masters helps you improve and understand the script better, and I'm all for careful analysis!
There is a lot of material online but I'm looking for an actual book that compiles relevant works and tells the history behind it.

A few years back my husband gave me a calligraphy book with all sorts of scripts. Now there is like 4 pages about copperplate and no mention of Spencerian, but still I get more from staring at the five samples of copperplate work on two pages, than browsing a million samples on Instagram.

I feel like you focus differently on a book with less samples than you can turn to over and over. Thus my search for a good book reference.

Now these books are usually pricey so I really want to choose the right one.

So, do you have a pointed pen calligraphy "Bible" to recommend?

Have a lovely day!

Lucie

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Kind Critique / Re: Please help me with my Copperplate :)
« on: July 10, 2022, 04:08:12 PM »
Hello,

I've been practicing a lot this weekend, hurray for baby naps, she isn't always so good at sleeping ^^
Here is a bit of spontaneous writing, working on squaring and getting the shades right.
Some awkward moments as I have switched to Joe Vitolo's exemplars.

Also, capital I and J practice :)
And setting that Latin phrase on paper, just to see what it looks like on a blank background.

As usual, your feedback is infinitely precious!

I have been using a Tachikawa straight holder, walnut ink, and French writing paper.

My Copperplate is still at it's humble beginnings, but I must say something has clicked this week, I feel much more comfortable and this is thanks to the help I have received on the forum. I am very grateful!

Also, to everybody who is going to Iampeth next week, I hope you have a great time :)

Cheers,

Lu

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Introductions / Re: Hello from Paris!
« on: July 07, 2022, 10:17:16 AM »
Thank you Karl!

Lovely to know there is another celtic harp enthusiast on the forum. Somehow I feel calligraphy and Celtic harp go well together. I get similar vibes from both these activities.

All the best and see you on the forum!  :D

Lu

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Kind Critique / Re: Please help me with my Copperplate :)
« on: July 07, 2022, 10:10:17 AM »
Reporting back!

I have been practicing my m, n and v's. Now I take a step back, I'm a little sad to see I'm still not pressing hard enough at the overturn and the shade comes in too late.
I'm also trying to correct my strokes on the w, u and i.

During practice sessions I try to start with focused exercises and then do some free writing with whatever phrase/emotion comes to mind at the end.

I write on A5 paper, it seems to help me turn the paper and correct my nib angle more spontaneously.

All feedback is welcome. I'm still going to wage war on those overturns, I'm by no means done with them but grateful I have a direction now to improve.

Again, thank you for your precious help.

Cheers!


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Kind Critique / Re: Please help me with my Copperplate :)
« on: July 04, 2022, 04:45:50 PM »
Awww Erica, thank you soooo much! My jaw dropped that you took the time to make a diagram. It is now printed and I'm about to get to work.
I see it now, (some of) the obvious mistakes that made my script awkward. I know there are others I can't see yet, but my round M's always bugged me and I couldn't quite put my finger on what was wrong.

I'll get right to it. Have a lovely week   :D

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