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Introductions / Re: Hello
« on: August 31, 2021, 08:38:51 PM »
Greetings, Matthew!  I very much enjoy hearing about people who have found great happiness in things they've found to do!  I cannot help to notice that you have a keyboard as your avatar ... musician and calligrapher?  I am trying to balance penmanship and music myself.   Wishing you many more joys in life, my Flourish Forum brother!

Introductions / Re: Hi! I'm Clover!
« on: August 31, 2021, 08:32:57 PM »
Greetings, Clover!  I love your introduction and gleeful overwhelm ... oh, and big-head doggos!  Hoping you enjoy the forum and many happy life moments.  - Karl

Introductions / Re: Hello from Bogota
« on: August 31, 2021, 08:27:44 PM »
Greetings, Ruben!  Yes, this forum is very inspirational. Hope you find a script/style that really pulls at your heart and you find success in learning it.  Wishing you many joyful life moments!

- Karl

Show & Tell / Re: Knowledge
« on: August 06, 2021, 06:43:58 PM »
I have not creased to be astounded by what can be done with paper, pen and ink by some people! Your art is beautiful to behold. 🙇‍♂️

Kind Critique / Re: Handwriting (not calligraphy)
« on: August 06, 2021, 06:10:00 PM »
Your handwriting is beautiful to my eye! "Practical handwriting" is very much what I aspire to in having taken up learning Spencerian almost a year ago. I love to correspond, and hope one day to do it via snail mail. If my hand were anywhere near what I see in yours, I would begin today. Thank you for sharing this! Every effort inspires me.

Wishing you many happy life moments,

Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Calligraphy forum
« on: June 22, 2021, 09:54:26 PM »
To clarify, IG is an often used abbreviation for the Instagram sharing platform. You can sign up for a new account on and use the name of your calligraphy forum for the account.

Instagram makes it possible to share (post) photos, so you could post sample pictures of your calligraphy, for example. Also, if you find other IG user posts that are interesting to you or related to your forum, you can comment on them and possibly share information about your site. Hoping this helps!

Wishing you joy,

Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Help w hairlines
« on: June 17, 2021, 03:35:00 PM »
@Erica McPhee Yes! I'm all about drills now, due to your and other's suggestions and encouragement.

Spencerian Script / Re: No drills club
« on: June 16, 2021, 06:50:31 PM »
I have been learning to play the cello and I understand exactly how that comes into play.  ;D However, I would encourage you to try some of the drills (no letters) as it will strengthen your whole arm movement greatly.

In a similar manner to what you are saying @Zivio if one only practices letters and words, without composition or finished pieces, there can only be so much progress.  :)

Ah, cello -- the most beautifully melancholy of strings! I'd love to hear more about your musical journey, although this probably isn't the place.  :D

I recently encountered the "Re: Drills" thread in the Spencerian category here, and am inspired by that, and your encouragement, to get to work!  To continue the musical analogy, it occurred to me that in learning technique on a variety of musical instruments, I really did have to buckle down to rudimentary drills on each and every one of them before even thinking about playing musical phrases.  So, it stands very much to reason that I will benefit from the same with my new instrument, the pen. 

Introductions / Re: Greetings from the Pacific Northwest!
« on: June 16, 2021, 06:42:15 PM »
Thank you for the kind words of welcome, Erica!  Already I've been working my way through the Spencerian archives here and really enjoying it.

Joy to you and yours!

Introductions / Greetings from the Pacific Northwest!
« on: June 13, 2021, 06:47:32 PM »
Greetings from the Pacific Northwest! I was very pleased to find this online forum and already have found it to be very interesting and informative. Please allow me to share with you why I am here:

My particular interest is in learning Spencerian handwriting, and I've been on the journey for about nine months now, practicing on average an hour per day. My natural cursive writing is execrable, and I had what my brother called a "caveman's grip."  As a younger man, I loved to correspond by snail mail (the *only* mail of the day) with my sisters who had moved from our hometown. Among other things, I got into computer programming in the very early '80s at which time coding was typically done in printing, so I had completely lost the skill of cursive writing because of that and just never used it. I've always admired calligraphy and writing of all sorts and hoped one day to work on my own.  An erstwhile coworker's handwriting was especially inspirational it was simple Zaner-Bloser but executed very neatly.  He explained that the sisters at his parochial school insisted on accuracy and mastery.  It left me with the hope that with time, patience and practice I might one day improve my own writing. About thirty years ago I picked up a copy of "Better Handwriting in 30 Days" by Paula Sassi at a used bookstore and held onto it all this time, eventually deciding that I might avail myself of it "when I retire."  Well, I retired on 1/1/2020 and eventually kept my personal promise to look into it.

Some of the samples of various people's handwriting in that book made me want to find a unique "masculine" style of writing that I could adopt and adapt to express my own personal style, but soon after beginning the exercises in the book I realized that it didn't seem possible I'd be able to do this I felt I really had no particular aptitude for emulating any writing but then stumbled upon the Spencerian style and then the Platt Rogers Spencer reprints of Spencerian Penmanship Theory and copybooks. Besides loving what I saw, having a methodical way of learning was a great match for my personal learning style, so I got started. Since then, I've also used Michael and Debra Sull's "Learning to Write Spencerian Script" and 1873 edition of "The Payson, Dunton & Scribner Manual of Penmanship" downloaded from as well as many other resources found on the web. In particular, I have been fascinated by the explicit instruction given in some of the older texts on the proper handgrip and using arm motions almost exclusively for writing. I understand there are various opinions about this, but after a lifetime of horrible writing habits and techniques, I felt I'd have the best chance of learning by starting over completely with any of my muscle memory ideas about how to form letters. 

My learning so far has had moments of frustration, elation, plateaus, fascination, and questioning, but I have been committed to experiencing it as a journey without too much looking ahead to a final destination.  My hopes are to soon replace my rote daily practice with actual handwritten snail mail letters to my loved ones and acquaintances and to help keep alive the art and beauty of expressing oneself in this way.

So happy to be here, and wishing all many happy life moments!

Spencerian Script / Re: No drills club
« on: June 13, 2021, 11:51:37 AM »
So happy to have encountered this post! I would like to join the club.   :D

Decades ago when taking classical piano lessons I cut my teeth on all manner of technical scales, arpeggios and other finger exercises. They satisfied some sort of compulsion. It felt like they were something good for a musician to do. I enjoyed them. I practiced them on many other instruments.  It wasn't until thirty years later a luthier friend and classical guitarist said, "do you want to get good at playing scales? Select some music with scales in it!" This totally disabused me of spending so much time on technical exercises and has now informed my recently found challenge of learning Spencerian handwriting.

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