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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 1
« on: April 11, 2017, 12:37:53 AM »
@flummoxed - I mentioned the video for a demonstration of the pen lift at the bottom of the stroke.

You were drawing the shaded stroke correctly, the roundness came from the exit hairline going out a bit too far to the right. As for the tapering off at the end of the shaded stroke, move your pen slightly to the right as you release pressure, this will keep the right side of the shade straight while the left side will taper in a curve to meet at a point by the time you get to the baseline. The point you touch at the base line can be a little to the right of the right side of the shade - but only a little.

- Salman

Thanks for your patience Salman, I'll try today and post the results.

Show & Tell / Re: Overdoing it
« on: April 10, 2017, 02:52:22 PM »
This looks wonderful!

Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 1
« on: April 10, 2017, 11:58:53 AM »
@SMK, I went and looked back at the video and tried to redo the 'i's on a printed guide sheet for today.

Line 1: I divided the line into three parts to reduce the pressure on the nib in the bottom third. In the first few cases I drew the 'i' with a pencil and then proceeded to try out individual 'i's. I did not realise that the curve continued.

Line 2: I tried a set of 5 'i's in this line. I realised that while I had reduced the pressure in the bottom third, I had not spaced them properly. The ticks/crosses on the top represent the angle of the downstroke and the ones at the bottom represent the spacing between the upstroke (entry stroke?) and the downstroke of the 'i'.

Line 3: In this set, while I got the spacing to be better than the previous set, I was not able to reduce the 'curve that you had referred to Salman. It was at the very end of this line that I realised the reason for the higher degree of the curve when compared to the 'i' in the video you posted on Instagram.

At the bottom of the page: I realised that the reason for the 'i' to have the larger curve was that I was beginning to curve the line itself instead of holding my line and reducing the pressure in the bottom third. I tried a sample set at the end of the page to check this hypothesis.

Line 4: I tried to draw the 'i's in the first half of the line and wasn't very happy with the results as I was reducing the pressure but I think the angle at which I was applying pressure was at fault. Both the tines would converge at the centre of the page instead of the left tine closing towards the right tine. I then proceeded to mark in a pencil the bottom third between the two parallel lines (representing the edges). I tried to adjust the angle of the nib to the page and the angle of the page to check if the tines were snapping back in the manner that they should.

Line 5: I only focussed on the tines snapping back together in this line. The spacing and the upward strokes were not consistent.

Line 6: The spacing (within the set of 5 'i's) was fairly better, but the upstrokes were not consistent.

Line 7: I got sloppy with the angle of the downstroke in this line and the spacing on a couple of occasions. The upstrokes were better in this line.

Line 8: I thought this line was better in terms of consistency but I think I got sloppy with the dots at the top and with the upstrokes in a couple of instances.

Please do let me know if this is what you meant by the curve and the angle of the 'i' from Day 1's practice Salman. If I am on the wrong track, I'll give it another such attempt tomorrow. Otherwise, another day with some more patience and I think the 'i' might begin to look like a decent 'i'.

By the way, thanks for taking the time out to comment.

Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 1
« on: April 10, 2017, 04:32:40 AM »
@SMK, Thanks, I had a guide sheet under this sheet. I'll give it another shot today with the sheets printed.

I didn't understand what you mean by the bottom turns/curves, I'll take a look at the Instagram clip to see what you mean.


Did you mean the video in this link?

I now know what you mean by link, I'll look at the practice sheet to check for the curves and will post a new version later today.


Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 1
« on: April 09, 2017, 10:25:48 AM »
I've been guilty of not practicing for a while now due to work and just not picking up a pen. I've had sporadic starts and stops, following by long periods of inactivity (work, family illness and plain laziness- hence the guilt). The plan is to get back to practicing forms and shapes, so that my basics are strong before I do anything fancy this time around.

Here is my practice sheet from today, any comments, suggestions would be helpful.

I got bored in the middle, and tried 'tilt' as indicated in the first post. I then went back to the i's, I think the last line seems to be fairly better than the first lines (before the 'tilt' line). However I might have ruined the nib already because I used it for another drawing ( I still have a problem with the upstrokes as I had posted in some of my other posts. Hopefully, I'll notice it quicker this time and reduce the pressure.

Thank you.

Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Another SUPER HERO
« on: March 31, 2017, 01:42:34 AM »
I'm back after a while, it was a pleasure to read your posts Ashok. Congratulations.

Tools & Supplies / Higgins Calligraphy Waterproof Black Ink
« on: March 29, 2017, 06:54:25 AM »

Does anyone have any experience with the Higgins Calligraphy Waterproof Black Ink? I am only able to get a rather grey (almost a pencil - 2H, 4H kind) for the hairline strokes on it, whereas the downstrokes with more ink seem to be black.

Coffee & Nib-bles / Re: Missing Mails from USA!
« on: October 19, 2016, 01:58:01 AM »
@Garima In exchanges on other forums (sketching, etc.), I had similar problems of letters only from the USA not being delivered. We figured out that there were three reasons,
- the pin/zip code format being used,
- funnily enough the fact that there were not enough stamps on the letter (sometimes, because of embossing, embellishments, etc. the package was thicker than an average letter and they would treat it as a parcel/package), and
- due to the decorative covers/styles, they were either not delivered/sent back or delivered to the wrong address!

We resolved this by ensuring that the postal address (including the pin code) was written in block letters and legible to a layman (postal workers deal with large volumes and short deadlines, they often don't have time to stop and re-read what some of us would consider beautiful), making sure the envelopes were free of any other form of embellishment/decoration.

Kind Critique / Re: Please RIGHT if im WRONG
« on: September 06, 2016, 04:04:29 AM »
Ashok, your progress and the dedicated practice you've put in is wonderful!

It is a nice reminder for those of us (finger pointed at me) who've been procrastinating about regular hours with our drills and script work.

I'd definitely recommend this thread be pinned as a guideline to all newcomers as a way to think about benefits of regular practice.

Tools & Supplies / Re: Question about fine nibs
« on: July 12, 2016, 02:01:52 AM »
Thanks Mike!

Tools & Supplies / Re: Question about fine nibs
« on: July 10, 2016, 11:17:35 AM »
And this was was the reason for this topic, thanks for the nibs @AnasaziWrites

Kind Critique / Re: Please RIGHT if im WRONG
« on: June 22, 2016, 03:26:17 AM »
Your practice sheets look really cool Ashok, and those with a better eye/hand than mine have already helped you.

In terms of the paper, just to add to what Prasad has mentioned, the BILT 100gsm and 85gsm have both been wonderful for me. Also try TNPL if you have access to it (Amazon/Flipkart or your local wholesaler).

Can I ask which brand of graph paper you had used in one of your earlier posts in this thread?

Introductions / Re: Introducing
« on: June 07, 2016, 06:12:37 AM »
Welcome Avinash, there are a bunch of us from India here!

Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: We have a new SuperHero!
« on: May 17, 2016, 02:02:57 AM »
Congratulations Mike!

There goes whatever little sleep I could get today! Looks to be a wonderful read, and I could spend hours on that website.

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