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Coffee & Nib-bles / Re: I am in the hospital
« on: April 06, 2016, 10:52:37 AM »
A message from me to you is in Carina's FF mailbox.  I forgot to say that it was Carina's idea that we could scan & email to her our fancy handwritten letters; she called it Free Snail Mail.  So if you are uncomfortable sharing an address for her, we can do that instead.  Either way, I'm going to get my pens out today and create something for her.

Hello evjo,

This is a splendid idea; if you don't mind, could you send me a personal message as to which email address you will use? I know that Carina has a few personal email as well as a school email, so it would be helpful to know which one I should check.

Once again, thank you,

Coffee & Nib-bles / Re: I am in the hospital
« on: April 05, 2016, 03:44:20 PM »
Hello, once again, flourish forum members,

I thank all of you for your kind comments regarding my daughter. For those ho requested, I will be sending you our address over the messaging system.

Once again, I thank all of you for helping my family and I move through these hard times. It's always refreshing to know that Carina is a part of such a rich and vibrant online community where the members truly care for each other.

I cannot thank you enough.

Coffee & Nib-bles / Re: I am in the hospital
« on: April 05, 2016, 03:40:11 PM »
Dear Sylvia, I am so shocked to hear about Carina's accident. I've had a few conversations with her here on Flourish and felt her great passion about calligraphy. I wish her and you and your whole family a quick and complete recovery!! You are in my thoughts, from far away Germany.


P.s. Colors of Christ is the online name of Connie Chen, you can get in touch with her via her website. I am sure she will be touched to hear how much her work means to Carina!

Thank you so much. Yes, Carina sure loves her calligraphy. Once she sets her mind to do something, she goes at it with her full heart.

And thank you for giving me the details about Colors of Christ. I will be sure to send her a message about just how helpful she has been.

Coffee & Nib-bles / Re: I am in the hospital
« on: April 05, 2016, 03:37:33 PM »
Sylvia, I am so sorry to hear the news about Carina, I know before Christmas she was so excited about getting her calligraphy supplies and getting started.  What terrible news to hear about her accident.  I will keep her in my thoughts and please do keep us updated on her progress.


Yes, that is true. She gave me a big long list of supplies to buy for her; unfortunately, I didn't realize I could buy all the supplies online, so I ended up bouncing from store to store looking for nibs and paper and oblique pens. I promised her I'll get the supplies later, and she has been so patient, using pencils and pens to practice.

Thank you for your thoughtfulness, and I will alert you once she wakes up from her coma.

Coffee & Nib-bles / I am in the hospital
« on: April 05, 2016, 09:22:28 AM »
Good morning Flourish Forum members.

My name is Sylvia and I am Carina's mom. I understand that she used to frequent this site and she has made a few online friends. I generally do not allow online friends, as there is always a risk involved, but looking through her posts and messages, I do not feel as if her interacting with you (the members) has caused or can cause any harm. I thank you all for that.

So on to the story. Carina was walking home from school one day and was hit in a hit-and-run incident. She has been in the hospital for the past few weeks, and yesterday she wanted me to let you guys know what happened. She could not type, as she was in a lot of pain from her injuries. Despite her injuries she wanted me to play youtube videos of someone known as "Colors of Christ" so that she may, and I quote, "see the beauty of calligraphy again." In fact, the only thing she has been doing these past few weeks is watching those videos (I don't know how many times I've replayed them) and twirling her fingers in an attempt to 'air write' the letters and the drawings (I believe they are called flourishes, but they look more like drawings).

I don't know who you are, "Colors of Christ" but I thank you for providing my daughter with hope. Calligraphy has become Carina's passion, and even here, in the hospital, she continues to try and work on the basic strokes and letter forms as she talks incessantly about how good her calligraphy will be once she can write again.

Unfortunately, today she was placed into a medically induced coma in order to stop her brain from swelling and causing permanent damage. I want to let her friends on this site know that she is doing (relatively) okay, and she should be able to come back to this site after a few months (or if she recovers quickly, perhaps in just a month).

I thank you all for giving my daughter something to work towards. I thank you all for helping my daughter live life to its fullest, even though the circumstances are bleak.

Thank you,
Carina's mom, Sylvia

What's interesting though ... drills and line exercises improve both my calligraphy and handwriting.  ;D

Huh. That's interesting. Do you know why?

Calligraphy dos not improve my handwriting but not for the reasons you mention- it has nothing to do with the tool. Instead I find that I just have a different 'thought process' around doing calligraphy vs handwriting. So that calligraphy comes somewhere between writing and drawing, because I focus so much on each letter as I put it down on the paper.

Hmm. Interesting. So . . . what if you decided to think about writing the way you think about calligraphy? Would that make any difference?

So. I was wondering. If you are really good at calligraphy, would your everyday handwriting naturally improve? Or is there absolutely no correlation because of the type of writing tool you're using. Like you know how you can write a letter with one pen and you feel as though you can frame it on a wall, but you write the exact same thing in a different pen and it looks like chicken scratch?

I would guess that if you're good at calligraphy, your everyday handwriting would probably be pretty good, but that may not be the case. I don't know about the general calligraphy populace, but when I'm writing an essay, I don't hold my pen the way I would if I was practicing calligraphy.

So because of the difference in the way the pen is held, as well as the type of pen used, is there always a huge difference between calligraphy and everyday handwriting, or does that huge difference slowly become a not-so-huge difference?

Find a Pen Pal / Re: I have invented a new kind of mail . . .
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:40:02 PM »
O Wise One (Carina) -  Did you get the pen letter I sent to you last month via email?

I just checked my inbox, and I have not received your email  :o Have I broken email? Oh dear. I sure hope nobody else has tried to email me, or they would think I was very rude ignoring them like that. Would you mind resending it? It might go through this time. Really sorry, by the way; I don't know why I don't have it.  :-[

Oooh. Thank you Andy. I guess it was kind of self explanatory. Whups  :-[

As some others have said -- it really depends. I was cleaning out a closet and found an totally blank "composition notebook", it holds ink just fine until I try a REALLY wet fountain pen. But it's been totally fine for drills/practicing letterforms!

What do you mean by "really wet fountain pen?"

Tools & Supplies / Re: Why do people use vintage nibs?
« on: December 21, 2015, 01:27:47 PM »
So why are vintage nibs a higher quality than modern day nibs? Shouldn't it be the other way around -- as technology increases and advances, shouldn't nib production also advance to produce higher quality nibs?

Tools & Supplies / Re: Why do people use vintage nibs?
« on: December 20, 2015, 10:15:17 PM »
Everyone will have their reasons but I use them because they're great to write with and make my writing experience much better. I'd rather enjoy using them while I can, even if I risk running out and switching to something else, than keeping them stored away and not fulfill their purpose for being created.

Some people collect them and never use them and that's fine, their nibs so they can do what they want.

There's a reason why prices are skyrocketing for the sought after vintage nibs, not only because people want to try them but because they want to get as many as they can before they're too expensive/gone.

I got in before inflation went wild and I've gotten very lucky so I've got no problem using my vintage Spencerian 1's or Gillott 303's because it'll be years before I run out of either but not everyone is as fortunate. There are also cheaper, lesser known, vintage nibs that work great and area relatively easier to collect in gross quantities but everyone wants the dream points...

That's interesting. Would you say vintage nibs, on average, write better than modern day nibs?

I didn't know broad edge pen calligraphy is *that* old.

The chisel edged reed pen was well established in Greece 2200 years ago ... so yes, getting on a bit.  :-)

In Greece!? The more ya know . . .


Yes, certainly. but as this category is for broad edged nib writing, I'll post it in the Show & Tell category.

Thank you

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