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General Categories => Copperplate, Engrosser's Script, Roundhand Calligraphy => Topic started by: Martín on February 11, 2014, 03:09:09 PM

Title: Some inspiration...
Post by: Martín on February 11, 2014, 03:09:09 PM
The other day Joe Vitolo posted this wonderful exemplar of Lupfer's work on the FB calligraphy group, and it's so wonderful, I felt like sharing it here.
It's a very nice blend of ornamental-style caps with a flourished roundhand lettering... One can only wish to achieve anything close to this!

(https://theflourishforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpmsC1YE.jpg&hash=3b448a53b853e3904cda3024f59203ad)

Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: schin on February 11, 2014, 04:31:29 PM
Boy, people back then really were something else..!
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: dailyletterings on February 11, 2014, 05:12:00 PM
this is awesome. thanks for sharing, martin!
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: NikkiB on February 11, 2014, 05:57:15 PM
Thanks Martin,

As a beginner it was really useful to see how the lowercase letters are supposed to join together and looking at this, I realise that I am missing some important steps in my own practice!
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: Linda Y. on February 11, 2014, 06:58:09 PM
*swoon*

thank you for sharing this, Martin!
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: Erica McPhee on February 12, 2014, 12:07:26 AM
WoW! So delicious!  ;D
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Post by: FrenchBlue Joy on February 13, 2014, 02:27:59 AM
beyootiful! :D
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: ErikH on February 14, 2014, 06:33:03 AM
Wonderful!

Perhaps with 10 years of long, daily practice... :)
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: Martín on February 14, 2014, 08:14:54 AM
Wonderful!

Perhaps with 10 years of long, daily practice... :)

Perhaps.. but I suspect it'll take more than that. At least, at the rate at which someone who's not a full-time penman can dedicate to the craft...
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: Perfectsettings on March 12, 2014, 02:33:52 PM
I was just took the capitals practice from Erica.  I have to agree... not only is the D very hard but honestly it isn't very pretty.  Not even on your example.  I don't think it was the penman I think (IMO) it's just not a very pretty letter.  Which is sad that I have to write it daily for my name.
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: tintenfuchs on March 12, 2014, 03:13:32 PM
I was just took the capitals practice from Erica.  I have to agree... not only is the D very hard but honestly it isn't very pretty.  Not even on your example.  I don't think it was the penman I think (IMO) it's just not a very pretty letter.  Which is sad that I have to write it daily for my name.

Noo, Daisy, there are pretty Ds out there, look at this one: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21860485@N06/12601446643/in/set-72157641139333033 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/21860485@N06/12601446643/in/set-72157641139333033)
While some really aren't that pretty, I find it to be a lovely specimen.
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: Perfectsettings on March 12, 2014, 04:04:26 PM
Yuck!  Nope.  Sorry to disagree.  I just don't like the letter, I guess.
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Post by: jamiemateo on March 12, 2014, 07:56:23 PM
Thanks for sharing this <3 So consistent! I love it :) BTW Martin, where can I find the calligraphy group in Facebook?
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: Martín on March 13, 2014, 10:16:52 AM
Yuck!  Nope.  Sorry to disagree.  I just don't like the letter, I guess.
I'm not sure I understand what you meant, but is it so that you don't like the Spencerian/OP type 'D'? It is indeed quite unlike a 'D' in most other scripts...
I was not very fond of it either, but appreciation has come as time passes. It's not particularly hard to pen, either... just takes a bit of practice.
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: Martín on March 13, 2014, 10:20:00 AM
Thanks for sharing this <3 So consistent! I love it :) BTW Martin, where can I find the calligraphy group in Facebook?

Thanks!

The group can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/calligraphists/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/calligraphists/)
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: Blotbot on March 13, 2014, 12:00:46 PM
The Lupfer script is very interesting.  I am no expert, but it looks like a hybrid between copperplate and Spencerian.  The miniscules look like copperplate to me, while the majuscules look with Spencerian, with the wedge shaped descenders. 
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: Perfectsettings on March 13, 2014, 12:05:03 PM
Martin, I in no way am being critical - I have no room to do so... I'm a very, very newbie.  My "D's" may never look as good as this one.  I simply don't like the look of the letter D.  Same goes for L.  *shrug*  Just an off handed observation. 
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Post by: thistledesignstudio on March 13, 2014, 12:32:36 PM
Beautiful!   :D
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: Martín on March 13, 2014, 12:53:05 PM
The Lupfer script is very interesting.  I am no expert, but it looks like a hybrid between copperplate and Spencerian.  The miniscules look like copperplate to me, while the majuscules look with Spencerian, with the wedge shaped descenders.

it is precisely that, with some liberties taken on the copperplate ('t' cross-bars, some 'd's).
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: Martín on March 13, 2014, 01:29:23 PM
Martin, I in no way am being critical - I have no room to do so... I'm a very, very newbie.  My "D's" may never look as good as this one.  I simply don't like the look of the letter D.  Same goes for L.  *shrug*  Just an off handed observation.

I don't see any problem with that, really. It's a matter of taste. It's probably still a good idea to practice it, as it's part of the script, but nothing prevents you from using other forms for both 'D' and 'L'.

You can see alternate forms for both by one of the greatest ornamental penmen ever (Madarász) below:

(https://theflourishforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4wycyZ1.png&hash=94f7413e0e60c30ad3a4243ad786e355)
(https://theflourishforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fdojbppg.png&hash=1b70ac5ff7e8c350df10200600c1677c)

Maybe you'll like those better.

Cheers,
 Martín
Title: Re: Some inspiration...
Post by: schin on March 13, 2014, 07:35:02 PM
Augh those are so perfect that it hurts to look at.. and to think that the original is probably 300% smaller than that..!!  :'(