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Offline tintenfuchs

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Parallel Pen & Iron Gall
« on: August 19, 2015, 02:03:47 AM »
Hi everyone,

I have some beautiful colored Iron Gall ink from Rohrer & Klingner and I've been successfully using it with dip pens. However, I was wondering if it will kill my Parallel Pens, if I put it in there. Will it destroy the plastic and/or the nib? I'm guessing yes, since it's corrosive, but how long will it take to actually destroy the PP? If I have to buy a new one once a year or so, it'll be okay, but if it destroys it in a month, I'd rather use dip nibs.

I hope someone can shed some light on that.

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Re: Parallel Pen & Iron Gall
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2015, 02:49:19 AM »
I think they claim their Iron Gall inks are even ok with fountain pens, if you don't leave the ink in too long and flush it well with water after use ;). I'd check their website!
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Re: Parallel Pen & Iron Gall
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2015, 02:57:06 AM »
http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/review/B004MO0ONI/R17WMNKL6B1FWX/ref=cm_cr_dp_aw_rw1?cursor=1&sort=rd

Sorry, that's German, but essentially the guy says that flushing with water between fillings in fountain pens is sufficient to keep the pen ok :). So I guess with the Parallel Pen the ink should be ok too
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Re: Parallel Pen & Iron Gall
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2015, 04:04:55 AM »
Are we talking Salix or Scabiosa, Natascha?  Both of those should be just fine as Stefanie says: I'm perfectly happy to use them in any fountain pen, anyway (including the oh-so-delicate vintage ones you're not supposed to use, full stop).   ;)

However, I know that R&K have an extensive range most of which never makes it to the UK - which is a pity - so there's a chance that there's a malevolent, pen-eating ink lurking amongst them ... I tend to doubt it though.  Excellent ink company: lots of unusual colours.

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Re: Parallel Pen & Iron Gall
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2015, 12:01:40 PM »
the book parallel pen wizardry says problem free inks would be:
Pelikan 4001-bright colors
Other Fountain pen colors

Dr. Martin's Hydrus liquid watercolor
Dr. Martin's Synchrimatic watercolors
Herbin Calligraphy inks
Higgins eternal
walnut ink
Winsor Newton Calligraphy inks with blue caps.
Dr. Martin's Tech-semi transparent and waterproof

Also you can use gouache and watercolors

White colors you can use Ziller or FW Acrylic white. Does mention you can use Dr. Martins bleedproof.

I don't think Iron Gall would be a good idea, there is no mention of it in the book.

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Re: Parallel Pen & Iron Gall
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2015, 09:30:14 AM »
Are we talking Salix or Scabiosa, Natascha? 
Those two both :)

Thank you everyone, for your input :) I think I'll risk it!
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Re: Parallel Pen & Iron Gall
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2015, 09:32:29 AM »
Are we talking Salix or Scabiosa, Natascha? 
Those two both :)

Thank you everyone, for your input :) I think I'll risk it!

They are in my wishlist !! Please, do tell about your experience. And show us!
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Re: Parallel Pen & Iron Gall
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2015, 11:29:53 AM »
I think I'll risk it!

Oh, it'll be fine.  Just don't leave the ink standing in the pen for months on end!  :)

My experience?  I've mostly used them in fountain pens but they work nicely with dip pens too ... the only problem being a fairly narrow-mouthed bottle.  Both darken appreciably on some papers, notably Rhodia.  As with most IG fountain pen inks you can water them down quite a bit for that old fashioned blue-black look (or dusty purple in the case of Scabiosa).  Long ago I tried rinsing some writing under the tap in a spirit of enquiry, and they are both very waterproof indeed.

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Re: Parallel Pen & Iron Gall
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2015, 02:52:39 AM »
dusty purple in the case of Scabiosa

OOOHYES :D
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Re: Parallel Pen & Iron Gall
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2015, 04:54:12 PM »
Agree, should be fine!  Scabiosa shades nicely in a parallel (or a flex FP nib).    I have Scabiosa in a vintage Waterman right now, and so far, so good.   ::)

Are you trying that thing where you touch two parallel pens together (each with different color)  for a gradient effect?  It's pretty nice-- my Noodler's inks worked best for that.   

Hope to see how it works for you! 

p.s.  Just wanted to add, the color blending technique I was talking about, I first saw demonstrated by Jane Shibata--here's a flyer for one of her workshops: (if allowed, if not I'll remove):  http://www.societyforcalligraphy.com/Calendar/flyers/0815_shibata.pdf 
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