question about Spencerian Script

[Brad franklin]

What is the difference between  Spencerian Script and Spencerian Ladies Hand? Beside the obvious, why are they separated?

[schin]

It's almost the same.. in fact Spencerian Ladies Hand was developed by PR Spencer and sons in order to market this handwriting to women and to sell more products to them

[Erica McPhee]

LOL! I just love writing Spencerian Ladies' Hand ... it makes me feel so feminine -- said no woman ever. 

[Brad franklin]

I just want to make sure when I start learning the script I'm doing the manly version ha ha

[Erica McPhee]

LOLOLOLOL! I literally laughed out loud Brad!   

[schin]

Haha don't worry about it Brad! It was men who came up with that script after all!

[tintenfuchs]

It's probably like Coke Light and Coke Zero. Both will kill your teeth slowly, but one will do it in a manly fashion.

[Blotbot]

Is it the same with roundhand and Italian style?  There are two styles in the Bickham books.  The Italian is very similar to roundhand, be seems a slight bit less forceful. 

[Ken Fraser]

Brad :

Spencerian Ladies Hand is basically the same as Spencerian Script but slightly more compressed. The most noticeable difference is the extended looped ascenders and descenders - sometimes even more than I've shown here. Also, the majuscules are constructed differently and the shading overall is much lighter. Presumably, this was to give a more delicate "feminine" look to the lettering. Anyway, it's just a name and both sexes write it.

[Brad franklin]

Thanks Ken for the exemplar.

[Ken Fraser]

Blotbot :

Copperplate (English Roundhand) and Italian Hand are actually quite different and require different techniques in writing. At an enlarged size, this word first in Copperplate and then in Italian Hand demonstrates just how different the two script are.

[Blotbot]

So how do you write the Italian hand?  The shading isnt always on the downstoke.  Do you write with a flat edge and twist it?

[Ken Fraser]

Italian Hand was probably written originally with a flat nib, twisted occasionally, as you say. However, I write it with a pointed nib, as it's much easier, and just fill in the little horizontal shades. Actually. it's tedious to write and hardly worth the effort as it's not the most attractive hand IMO.

[Faeleia]

I just want to make sure when I start learning the script I'm doing the manly version ha ha

Ladies hand always seems kind of tall and lithe, simple and with a light touch to me, much like modern day 'feminine' standards.

Then it would be best to make sure yours is muscular and assertive, with large and excessive loops to show them light hands that you can do much better!, and you'll write none of damn 'love', 'beautiful', 'delicate', 'poem', 'birds', 'vegetables' words. Pssh. A man writes things like 'Dragon', 'Fire', 'Axe', 'MAN', 'soccer', 'testosterone', 'raw meat'. Your paper will be rough, made from the skin of murdered animals, and have charred edges to indicate the power embedded into such writing has such fire that it singes the corners from raw MANLINESS!

^{I even imagined a nice fire pit by some high and snowy mountain and the oblique pen fashioned out of elephant tusks by the writing board just to complete the image. I clearly need some reality check.}
 

[Moya]

I just want to make sure when I start learning the script I'm doing the manly version ha ha

Ladies hand always seems kind of tall and lithe, simple and with a light touch to me, much like modern day 'feminine' standards.

Then it would be best to make sure yours is muscular and assertive, with large and excessive loops to show them light hands that you can do much better!, and you'll write none of damn 'love', 'beautiful', 'delicate', 'poem', 'birds', 'vegetables' words. Pssh. A man writes things like 'Dragon', 'Fire', 'Axe', 'MAN', 'soccer', 'testosterone', 'raw meat'. Your paper will be rough, made from the skin of murdered animals, and have charred edges to indicate the power embedded into such writing has such fire that it singes the corners from raw MANLINESS!

^{I even imagined a nice fire pit by some high and snowy mountain and the oblique pen fashioned out of elephant tusks by the writing board just to complete the image. I clearly need some reality check.}
 

Hahahahahahahaha!!!! LOVE IT!~