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Tools & Supplies / Re: Curv-E Holder - New Oblique Pen Holder
« on: April 15, 2024, 05:31:51 PM »
I got mine (from Erica) some days ago and it is so beautiful and comfortable 
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Show & Tell / Re: My Copperplate book – now in English
« on: March 12, 2024, 06:10:00 AM »
Thank you, @tiffany.c.a ! I’m glad to hear that!
! I’m glad to hear that!
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Show & Tell / Re: My Copperplate book – now in English
« on: March 10, 2024, 05:25:21 AM »
Thanks so much, @Despoina !
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Show & Tell / Re: My Copperplate book – now in English
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Show & Tell / Re: My Copperplate book – now in English
« on: March 10, 2024, 03:49:13 AM »I couldn’t get the hoaki link to work. But I added the US Amazon link.
Oh – that’s weird, @Erica McPhee – it works from my computer … thanks so much for adding the Amazing link
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Show & Tell / Re: My Copperplate book – now in English
« on: March 09, 2024, 05:25:11 PM »
Thank you, @Cyril Jayant and @darrin1200 ! It really was a lot of work – it took me about 1,5 years as I did also all the designing and typesetting, scanning of the exemplars etc. … but definitely worth it!
! It really was a lot of work – it took me about 1,5 years as I did also all the designing and typesetting, scanning of the exemplars etc. … but definitely worth it!
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Show & Tell / Re: My Copperplate book – now in English
« on: March 09, 2024, 02:39:42 AM »
Thank you, dear Erica !
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Show & Tell / My Copperplate book – now in English
« on: March 08, 2024, 04:40:10 PM »
I hope it’s ok to tell you all here that my book about pointed pen calligraphy – mainly Copperplate, but also some other styles and general information – is now also available in English from:
https://www.hoaki.com/shop/en/new-books/copperplate-calligraphy.html
(It’s also available from Amazon and Hoaki ships internationally as well in many countries, also probably you can simply order it from a regular bookstore.)
Here is a link to the US Amazon: Copperplate Calligraphy.
It has also been published in Japanese! You can buy it directly from the publishing house (or also from Amazon):
https://bnn.co.jp/products/9784802511834
I want to say Thank you especially to @Erica McPhee, but also to the whole Forum – I never would have been able to write this book without all the wonderful exchanges, learning, discussions and so on here on Flourish! I’m very grateful I found this place back in 2013 when I just had started learning calligraphy.
Cheers and thanks to all of you!
(If this is too much advertising let me know please, @Erica McPhee
…)
https://www.hoaki.com/shop/en/new-books/copperplate-calligraphy.html
(It’s also available from Amazon and Hoaki ships internationally as well in many countries, also probably you can simply order it from a regular bookstore.)
Here is a link to the US Amazon: Copperplate Calligraphy.
It has also been published in Japanese! You can buy it directly from the publishing house (or also from Amazon):
https://bnn.co.jp/products/9784802511834
I want to say Thank you especially to @Erica McPhee, but also to the whole Forum – I never would have been able to write this book without all the wonderful exchanges, learning, discussions and so on here on Flourish! I’m very grateful I found this place back in 2013 when I just had started learning calligraphy.
Cheers and thanks to all of you!
(If this is too much advertising let me know please, @Erica McPhee
…)
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Everyday Handwriting | Penmanship / Re: Mandated public school cursive handwriting instruction in USA
« on: February 13, 2024, 03:43:53 PM »
In Germany Cursive is teached from Grade 1 (that is around the age of 6). I think a lot depends on the model of handwriting that is used, and also on how much time in the curriculum is actually used for practice. My kids learned a very simplified, just slightly slanted version of Copperplate-ish, they started with pencil drills, then letters, then words (like in Calligraphy really), and at the end of the first year usually the fountain pen is introduced. The exemplar they learned is easily to join – they all have nice handwriting in terms of legibility and fluidity. Developing one’s own style is encouraged as long as it’s readable. In contrast, in other states there are different models for Cursive, some are horrible and impossible to write fluidly. In some states they dropped Cursive altogether. It’s an ongoing debate …
I also don’t think handwriting will die – it will just be used differently and less frequently.
I also don’t think handwriting will die – it will just be used differently and less frequently.
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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: 4 returned Christmas cards
« on: February 13, 2024, 03:23:17 PM »
How disappointing!!
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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: 4 returned Christmas cards
« on: February 03, 2024, 07:57:21 PM »
Yes real post internationally is weird these days … how did it go with your complaint??
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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: 4 returned Christmas cards
« on: January 30, 2024, 05:49:23 AM »
Oh I am so sorry, Erica! That is so dissapointing when that happens 
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I received your card some days ago – it is so beautiful and all the more a pity some of the recipients didn’t get theirs!
(I wanted to thank you earlier, but things have been hectic – sorry!!)
.I received your card some days ago – it is so beautiful and all the more a pity some of the recipients didn’t get theirs!
(I wanted to thank you earlier, but things have been hectic – sorry!!)
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Copperplate, Engrosser's Script, Roundhand Calligraphy / Re: A German business card, AD 1895
« on: January 10, 2024, 12:57:54 PM »
For those who are interested, here is a German copy book from 1840: From page 9 to 20 German Kurrent, from 21 to 35 examples and exercises for English Handwriting. There is more, for example a pretty wild "Italian" alphabet, page 41, closely inspired by the Italian Hand of the English writing masters. But Latin and German Script really were required to learn for all children who went to school (the rest in the book are older styles, mainly used in the professional field, for law, for advertising etc.).
So basically German (and Austrian and Swiss) kids had to learn 8 alphabets: writing German Kurrent and Latin (Copperplate), each uppercase and lowercase, reading Fraktur (for German texts), also uppercase and lower case, and reading Roman letters (or Antiqua, as we call it in German) – basically our normal serif print letters, also capitals and minisules
. For print, using Antiqua was considered more of an educated upperclass thing, in earlier times mainly for texts in other languages, like Latin . There was some sort of ongoing debate about how much sense all this made, called the "Antiqua-Fraktur-Streit", it also had tons of political implications, as you may guess.
Thanks and a big shoutout to @sybillevz who collected this and many more copy books on her page https://pennavolans.com!!
I have lots more examples at home, but none of them digitized. Ah you can have a look very early Kurrent styles here:
https://www.loc.gov/resource/rbc0001.2019rosen0696/?sp=25&r=0.239,0.03,0.903,0.498,0
Visual explanation of Kurrent starts at page 25. What I find super interesting is that Fugger starts with teaching the strokes before writing letters – just like we do today. Makes sense of course.
So basically German (and Austrian and Swiss) kids had to learn 8 alphabets: writing German Kurrent and Latin (Copperplate), each uppercase and lowercase, reading Fraktur (for German texts), also uppercase and lower case, and reading Roman letters (or Antiqua, as we call it in German) – basically our normal serif print letters, also capitals and minisules
. For print, using Antiqua was considered more of an educated upperclass thing, in earlier times mainly for texts in other languages, like Latin . There was some sort of ongoing debate about how much sense all this made, called the "Antiqua-Fraktur-Streit", it also had tons of political implications, as you may guess.Thanks and a big shoutout to @sybillevz who collected this and many more copy books on her page https://pennavolans.com
!!I have lots more examples at home, but none of them digitized. Ah you can have a look very early Kurrent styles here:
https://www.loc.gov/resource/rbc0001.2019rosen0696/?sp=25&r=0.239,0.03,0.903,0.498,0
Visual explanation of Kurrent starts at page 25. What I find super interesting is that Fugger starts with teaching the strokes before writing letters – just like we do today. Makes sense of course.
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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Many, Many Thanks!
« on: January 10, 2024, 12:26:16 PM »
Thank you so much, @Erica McPhee !!! How beautiful you wrote all these names. I feel very honoured to be among them and I am so happy I found Flourish so early when I started learning calligraphy!
!!! How beautiful you wrote all these names. I feel very honoured to be among them and I am so happy I found Flourish so early when I started learning calligraphy!
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Copperplate, Engrosser's Script, Roundhand Calligraphy / Re: A German business card, AD 1895
« on: January 10, 2024, 12:24:14 PM »
Interesting examples indeed! In 2021 I gave a workshop about 18th century Kurrent in the Staatsbibliothek in Berlin. I had had interest in Kurrent before, but in preparation for this workshop I did a lot more research. Kurrent was used roughly from the 15th to the early 20th century and got through many stylistic changes, as it was a practical handwriting style (so to say the everyday sister style to the more formal chancery scripts and to Fraktur as the most formal style that was also widely used as fonts).
So you can’t say there is the slant for Kurrent. It basically existed with a left leaning slant, upright, and right leaning slant. It was written over the centuries with a quill (broad pen), with pointed quills and steel pens (that started influenced by English Round Hand in the late 18th and early 19th century) and in one of its latest iterations with a monoline nib (Sütterlin German Script, Sütterlin also existed as a "Latin" aka English script style). That was again written upright and meant to be changed by the maturing writer. It was a "Schulausgangsschrift" (basic school script, mostly meant to be as a simple pure style, easily to be learned and open to changes regarding use of nib, slant, letter forms, as long as they stayed recognisable). A very different approach than Palmer’s for example.
Latin aka English aka Copperplate was used paraellel to the "German" aka Kurrent styles – sometimes in the same body of text. Proper names, places, words from other languages like French or English were the most common application for Copperplate. It looks pretty weird as the x-height of Copperplate in the same text is usually much higher than the x-hight of Kurrent.
Btw the "w" in the first example is the most common form of "w" in the English master scribe books of the 18th century, look in your Universal Penman.
So you can’t say there is the slant for Kurrent. It basically existed with a left leaning slant, upright, and right leaning slant. It was written over the centuries with a quill (broad pen), with pointed quills and steel pens (that started influenced by English Round Hand in the late 18th and early 19th century) and in one of its latest iterations with a monoline nib (Sütterlin German Script, Sütterlin also existed as a "Latin" aka English script style). That was again written upright and meant to be changed by the maturing writer. It was a "Schulausgangsschrift" (basic school script, mostly meant to be as a simple pure style, easily to be learned and open to changes regarding use of nib, slant, letter forms, as long as they stayed recognisable). A very different approach than Palmer’s for example
.Latin aka English aka Copperplate was used paraellel to the "German" aka Kurrent styles – sometimes in the same body of text. Proper names, places, words from other languages like French or English were the most common application for Copperplate. It looks pretty weird as the x-height of Copperplate in the same text is usually much higher than the x-hight of Kurrent.
Btw the "w" in the first example is the most common form of "w" in the English master scribe books of the 18th century, look in your Universal Penman
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