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Messages - Salman Khattak

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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 4
« on: January 29, 2019, 03:24:48 PM »
@NevadaDeb

You do a very detailed analysis of your work - the things you are picking up show your experience and deep understanding of lettering. It is really cool to see - I really enjoy studying your exercise sheets.

May I suggest taking a small step back for a little bit though? There are a couple of letters that can use a bit of refinement.

The first is the 'r'  - the whole of the blob on the 'r' and the 's' should be above the waist line. This will give you space to move the shoulder of the 'r' to about a 1/4 of the x-height below the waist line. It is far too low in the example above.

You can let the bottom part of the 's' go a bit more to the left - it is o.k. to have the finishing dot overlap or even be on the left side of the entry hairline.

The closing stroke in the loop of the 'f' is too heavy. Make it as a hairline for now and look for the nice almond shape of the 'j' stroke - speaking of which, the loops on the 'g' and are bit too round in the bottom part. The closing stroke of the 'e' is getting a bit heavy too.

The second 'c' in the 'x' works out better if you let the belly fall a bit below mid x-height. Since the max weight of the upside down 'c' is above mid x-height, this will give you room to tuck the second 'c' under it a bit without having to touch the two and risk ink bleeding into the hairline. I hope this makes sense :-)

I will be looking forward to the next one.

- Salman

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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 4
« on: January 25, 2019, 12:56:51 PM »
@NevadaDeb

Debi - you have taken to this group of letters quite quickly. Very good work. Your notes on the exercise are spot on - if a bit too harsh at times :-)

Your letters structure is quite good. The next step is consistency. It looks like you are trying to make the 'o's a bit too narrow - let them breathe a little. The 'a' in your 'f' examples is good. Having such a narrow 'o' forces other letters like the 'r' and 'n' to be quite narrow which is hard to do resulting in an accordion like texture. For example, both examples of 'risk' have more relaxed spacing than say 'faxed'. The general rule for an 'o' is to be half the width of the height - this gives a pleasant looking shape that works well with the proportions of other letters.

As for the 'f' - all options would work in various places. I tend to make the entry hairline into the 'f' a bit higher (as if I'm going to make an 'i-n' join) this makes me me join the 'f' a bit higher but allows room for the 'blob'. In the last 'afr' I would put a light blob in the space after the 'a'.

- Salman

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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 4
« on: January 20, 2019, 07:06:26 AM »
@NevadaDeb

There is plenty good in your work above Debi. It is great that you are holding yourself to a high standard but don't discount the progress you have made :-)

I will be looking forward to your next attempt.

- Salman

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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 3
« on: January 15, 2019, 12:28:55 PM »
@NevadaDeb

You are right about further improvement but these things can be worked on and apply to the other groups as well. You will continue to improve across the board. At this point, I don't think there is much value in sticking to this group any longer - you have a good understanding of the structure and can execute it well.

Looking forward to your work on the misfits.

- Salman

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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 3
« on: January 14, 2019, 03:39:58 PM »
@NevadaDeb

This looks really good Debi. The spacing and consistency in 'gauge' is particularly nice. Just let the loop of the 'g' come up a bit higher so the exit hairline can start at the base line. Other than that, things look good. Please move on to the next group.

- Salman

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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 4
« on: January 14, 2019, 03:29:39 PM »
@Diane Bennett

Very nicely done Diane. The 'r' is much improved - the one in 'risk' looks great. There is a tendency to make the second stroke slant a bit more so watch out for that (also on the second stroke of the 'k'). I am happy with the 's' too.

Let's move on to the sentence. Remember, you are planning the whole layout now so consistent spacing between the words also becomes important. Have fun with it - feel free to come up with a creative layout if you feel like it.

- Salman

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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 3
« on: January 02, 2019, 02:13:45 PM »
@NevadaDeb

A very happy new year to you too Debi. There is visible progress in the last 3 uploads. The 'c' in the very last 'ce' is just perfect.

A couple of things to look at:

- The eye of the 'e' should be a bit bigger - lose the shade in it for now. The 'c' in the last 'ce' would make an excellent 'e'. We should be able to see the almond shaped counter a bit more clearly.

- The shades are coming in a bit too abruptly at the base line i.e. the transition to a hairline starts in the last 1/4 of the stroke rather than 1/3rd.


- Salman

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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: General Feedback - Copperplate
« on: January 02, 2019, 01:52:14 PM »
@Vipul

Thank you so much Vipul. It is indeed exciting for me to see people make such great progress. Your script continues to develop in such an interesting way. I am glad to be a part of your journey.

- Salman

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Tools & Supplies / Re: Magnifiers
« on: December 27, 2018, 01:57:12 AM »
@Salman Khattak  Thank you for responding, I really appreciate it.  Jean, above, mentioned this method as well.  I'll come back in a few days and let you all know how it worked.  I bought some 2.5's today at the drugstore!

@lizabetht - I don't think these are the ones Jean mentioned - here is a link https://canada.michaels.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-MichaelsCanada-Site/en_CA/Product-Show?pid=10183194   - they cost around $13, are quite light and flip up when you don't need them.

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Tools & Supplies / Re: Magnifiers
« on: December 25, 2018, 02:38:45 AM »
Another cheap option is the magnifiers that clip over your glasses. The are 1.5x (strength 2.25) - you can find them for around $10 in the sewing section at Michaels. I use them for close up work and they work great.

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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 3
« on: December 17, 2018, 05:40:15 PM »
What a story Debi. I might have done the same - only a calligrapher knows how the heart skips a beat on spotting good lettering. This story would be a great addition to the thread 'You know you are a Calligrapher when....'

Thank you for sharing that - it made my day.


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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 4
« on: December 17, 2018, 05:37:13 PM »
@Diane Bennett

Hi Diane - it is so good to see you back here. I was wondering if you had had enough of Copperplate.

It is awesome to see your first post after the break showing a significant improvement over the last one. Your 'f' is pretty much on target. The 's' is almost there too - it is well balanced except for the part that meets the base line. Let the stroke move a little bit more to the left before touching the baseline  (without changing the rest of it) and it will be much better balanced. You have done that in the 's' in 'stork' beautifully - it is o.k. to overshoot it a few times before you get the balance right. We are not supposed to get it right every time so give yourself permission to not be perfect :-)

The shoulder of the 'r' could be a bit softer - there is a version of this 'r' with a pointed shoulder used in Engrosser's script but I feel like a slightly rounded shoulder works better for the slightly less strict version we are using here.

Your 'o's could be a bit thinner too - the one in 'fox' is a good example. It will make the 'a' a bit thinner too making it work better IMO. For example, the 'a' and the 'e' in 'craze' should be a bit closer in widths - the 'c' and the 'a' are bit too wide, the 'e' is good.

I will be looking forward to the next one.

- Salman

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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: General Feedback - Copperplate
« on: December 15, 2018, 01:58:21 PM »
@Vipul

Hi Vipul - sorry for the late reply.

About the 'ss' join - the exit hairline of the 's' does indeed start a bit further to the left than in other strokes. This is an excellent observation. One can either draw the stroke a bit flatter from the point where the shaded stroke touches the base line and moving up when the stroke 'clears' the shade. Or just start the exit stroke with a bit of a gap at the base line.

Your script is very nicely controlled - especially in the transitions from hairline to shade and back in the 'o' and compound strokes. The ascenders and descenders play a big role in the overall look of a composition, especially when they are extra tall. The looped ascenders are just upside down descenders (as in the 'j' stroke) and need to be balanced around the slant guide. In the samples above the ascenders lean to the right while the descenders lean to the left - as if being blown by a gentle breeze in opposite directions.

The majuscules follow a similar rule to the minuscules in the proportions of being twice as tall (along the slant line) as they are wide. Yours are a bit too narrow. Make the middle stroke of the 'N' vertical and you will have nice proportions for that letter (you can have a slight 's' curve in that stroke but it should be balanced around the vertical).

Also, not sure if the tiny 'c' ending stroke of the 'r' works - it seems to break the flow to my eyes.

- Salman

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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 3
« on: December 15, 2018, 12:41:28 PM »
Thank you, Salman! I'll keep working on refining those problem areas, and I'm so grateful to you for pointing them out. It helps me to focus, especially when I see so many glaring problems and don't know where to start in fixing them. You've helped immensely!

And now, for today's sharing, and a funny thing that happened on the way to the doctor's office. See my attachment!

Awesome story Debi - one could have worse things on one's mind :-)

Your lettering is very nice. You have achieved good control of all the strokes up to this point. There is one minor refinement I would suggest at this time. I see a tendency to make the transitions (from hairline to full shade and back to hairline) on the 'o' stroke to be a bit abrupt. The same thing has started to happen with the compound stroke. A slightly more gradual transition would make the script even more attractive IMO.

- Salman

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Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 3
« on: December 06, 2018, 11:34:26 AM »
@NevadaDeb

Yes! You have it Debi. This is very nicely done. The spacing and baseline issues will go away as you get used to it and even then it is o.k. if we don't always get it right :-)

I will point out a couple of finer points - you can ignore them for now if you don't feel like dealing with them but I want to record these so I don't forget.

- The branching of the second stroke in 'h' and 'n' should be lower. The 'h' in 'quench' is a good example. This should look like the join in 'u' when you turn the paper upside down.

- The crossbar of the 't' has a tendency to go up towards the end.

I love the brush like effect in the writing at the bottom.

Regards,
Salman

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