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Tools & Supplies / Re: Where do you buy your vandyke crystals?
« on: May 05, 2018, 04:03:35 AM »
I bought mine on ebay, also shipped from UK and shipping was 2-3 GBP. I remember amazon and similar sites do have higher shipping costs, so I went with ebay.

EDIT: I live in Croatia so shipping to Germany should be less or the same.

Coffee & Nib-bles / Re: To anyone who uses the internet...
« on: March 28, 2018, 05:14:29 AM »
@bleair - I realize very well. I have been working in IT security for years and I know what can be collected about me (and is). However, I know how much data they have which makes it impossible to some random individual to get hold of specifically my data. For that, I need to be a person of interest to someone really important. If that happens, not having facebook account won't help me much, nor most of the other easy to implement privacy measures. But most of us will never be that important.

All of the advertising is just algorithms crunching provided data. And I don't care what some algorithm knows about me. Also, I buy only things I want to have and only when I really need them. So they can put on my timeline whatever they want, no matter how shiny it is I won't look at it twice.

To be clear, I am not defending Facebook nor any other company which sells consumer data. But the thing is, laws are lacking behind technology right now and big companies can make it go away (e.g. equifax). So what is there to do for us? My personal choice is to put on internet only the things I don't mind the whole world knowing. That's why my facebook is almost empty and I am not really active on social media. The thing is, people won't stop using internet. Nor social media. If Facebook goes away something else will replace it. Until laws catch up, there isn't much you can do. Either you delete yourself from the internet, or you just become aware that your data is around and it is being used for targeted ads so you learn how to ignore them.

The best resource for traditional copperplate is The Universal Penman by George Bickham. There is a printed book which can be bought on Amazon and in the most calligraphy stores which carry books. It can also be found online on web archive:

There are three versions, but pdfs arenít as good as printed book (which also doesnít have the best resolution). However, it is good enough to see which letterforms are traditional copperplate and which deviate from the traditional form.

Another awesome resource is Zanerian Manual which was published online not so long ago:

File is huge due to high resolution scan but it is the best reference for Engrosserís script.

As to not historical resources, Dr. Vitoloís book is awesome as well as Eleanor Winters Mastering Copperplate Calligraphy. Just be aware that these resources teach different calligraphy styles. Copperplate and Engrosserís are similar but still different scripts. IIRC, there are few threads on this forum which go into details, I try to link them later, am on mobile right now and find it a bit tricky to do search.

EDIT: Links to the thread that may be useful. Unfortunately photos are missing :/

Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 1
« on: March 14, 2018, 05:09:04 AM »
@paperandflair - are you printing your guidelines as a greyscale draft? You can save a lot of ink that way and it really doesn't matter when printing guidelines. Another thing I started to do is to not write on the guidelines when I am just playing around. So that way you can write on the guidelines when focusing on letter forms, and put them under the paper when trying out new nibs/inks or just experimenting in some way.

Kind Critique / Re: Need help with Engrosser's Majuscules
« on: March 14, 2018, 04:59:12 AM »
Thank you!

To be honest, I think I never did enough drills. I tend to focus more on studying the forms and figuring out execution. The attached drills look really practical for getting consistent ovals, I'll incorporate them into my practice.

I did use dr. Vitolo's workbook before, but completely forgot about it since Zanerian Manual was published online.

Kind Critique / Re: Need help with Engrosser's Majuscules
« on: March 13, 2018, 05:06:12 AM »
I am a bit late with an update to this thread. All the suggestions were awesome, I still have a long way to go but this is where I am now.

I am still struggling with consistency. I think this P is a really good one, but I cannot reproduce this consistently. My biggest problem are compound curve and that left loop.

EDIT: And with transition from the left oval to the right shaded stroke. Sometimes it is smooth, sometimes not really oval.

Design & Layout / Re: Writing on photos
« on: March 09, 2018, 03:54:43 AM »
I have never tried to write on photos, but had a similar situation at work. One of our colleagues decided to move abroad and we decided to gift him a framed photo of our team. We wanted to sign the photo but didn't want the signatures to fade. After some trial and error, we used white waterproof marker for writing on various surfaces to sign the photo and framed it afterwards. It looked really awesome.

I know it is not exactly what you aimed for, but give it a shot, I was pleasantly surprised with the result. Just remember to print out 5-10 pieces, so you can try lots of stuff out.

Tools & Supplies / Re: practice worksheets
« on: March 02, 2018, 11:07:50 AM »
I just tried typing and it is down for me. It may be the location - I am in Europe and if I am not mistaken, @AnasaziWrites and @jeanwilson you are both in the US? I just tried using proxy to access the site and it works. So it does some filtering based on location. Although I am not sure why do that for something as simple as guidelines generator.

Tools & Supplies / Re: practice worksheets
« on: March 02, 2018, 03:58:38 AM »
Too bad that site is down :(

You have a lot of guidelines here:
I prefer these for copperplate/engrosser's:

There is no traditional x-height, it can be whatever suits the piece. I often practice on 7 mm because it is large enough to see the mistakes. You can easily go to 12-13 mm with a very flexible nib. I still struggle with small x-heights but I know people who can write wonderful engrosser's at 2 mm x-height.

Kind Critique / Re: Need help with Engrosser's Majuscules
« on: February 08, 2018, 02:24:53 PM »

Thank you so much for explaining this technique in such detail, it is great!

I do measure slant and sizes on exemplars often but it never occurred to me to use it in this manner. I probably wonít have time to try it before weekend but Iím really looking forward to this practice, I can already see it will help me with many things:)

@Bianca M - looking forward to your DM!

Kind Critique / Re: Need help with Engrosser's Majuscules
« on: February 08, 2018, 04:49:03 AM »
So nice to hear people love Croatia :)

Which parts are you visiting? Let me know if you need tips/help with anything! And if you do come to Zagreb I can give you a tour around old part :)

On topic of Majuscules - I tried all of the suggestions and it did improve my letters. Fixing compound curve made the biggest difference. I am not there yet, but I'll post another photo when I get more consistent.

Kind Critique / Re: Need help with Engrosser's Majuscul
« on: February 07, 2018, 02:22:05 PM »
Wow, thank you both for the awesome suggestions! I agree with all the points, canít wait to try it out :)

@Starlee I love your explanation of the dot, I am definitely closer to understanding it now. As to cold, we are really lucky in Zagreb, Croatia, first winter snow happened today and it seems it will be gone by tomorrow :)

@Bianca M that exemplar is gorgeous, mine will never look like that but Iíll try :D

Kind Critique / Need help with Engrosser's Majuscules
« on: February 07, 2018, 09:28:51 AM »

I recently started practising Majuscules from Zanerian Manual due to skill gap between my Minuscules and Majuscules becoming more obvious. I focused on P, B and R first because that loop on the left was by far the worst part of my script.

I know I need to work more on my compound curve, it should be more balanced, especially on the top. However, I feel like something else is missing but I can't really figure it out. I know that right loop of P should be parallel with beginning of the loop on the left which isn't in my case because I have trouble figuring out how to get there. I find that transition from the loop on the left, over the compound curve to the loop on the right the hardest part to figure out. These letters were written by trial and error, not by me understanding how should I move my nib to get there so I am not sure if I am on the right track.

Thanks for the help!

It seems as it is not cracked:

I had no idea this existed but now I am sad it is not cracked, I really want to know what is behind :)

Copperplate Tutorial by SMK / Re: Copperplate Minuscules - Group 4
« on: January 25, 2018, 04:35:21 AM »

I have been following these lessons for bit over a year with a couple of breaks, I think you are doing much better than me :)

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