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Tools & Supplies / Re: Eberhard Faber metal powders?
« on: October 21, 2019, 05:51:27 AM »
@Karl H. Sounds fun! I can browse the instructions, and give you a quick info about the content, if you post a picture – I’m German ;).

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Show & Tell / Re: Terry Pratchett
« on: October 21, 2019, 05:48:43 AM »
I love that quote :)! And very neatly written. Thanks for sharing!

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Tools & Supplies / Re: Cleaning your nib...cloth Vs paper towel.
« on: September 26, 2019, 03:01:14 PM »
I use cotton or linen cloth – old shirts from my husband work greatly ;).
I see.
I think I now know why some of my old t-shirts have been disappearing.

Naah … T-shirts don’t work, they’re too linty ;D

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Tools & Supplies / Re: Cleaning your nib...cloth Vs paper towel.
« on: September 25, 2019, 05:16:40 PM »
I use cotton or linen cloth – old shirts from my husband work greatly ;).

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Tools & Supplies / Re: Walnut ink crystals -lightfast?
« on: September 18, 2019, 07:18:05 AM »
The walnut ink I buy is lightfast, according to its producer, and I haven't had complaints so far :).

https://www.kalligraphie.com/store/product_info.php/language/en/info/p1384_Nussbaumtinte-50ml.html/?x4d239=ai50krfive41b47tj3aq6rstm1

I’m also not sure about Da Vinci, that would be interesting to know! I always assumed what he used to write was iron gall ink (which after some centuries turns brown and looks a bit like walnut ink …).

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@Ken Fraser I also have one paperback copy for use, and another from the 60s, a beautiful hardcover that I only use when I need to see more details (it's a bit bigger reproduction than the A4 one ;)).

I also love the Dutch writing masters, and the earlier English ones … Shelley for example has sublime exemplars … for all who don't know it already, @sybillevz has a wonderful website with tons of information and links to most important copybooks from the 16th to the 20th century … https://pennavolans.com/

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Written in the Roundhand style of 18th century English Masters

… they were the best, right ;)? Very beautiful, @Ken Fraser !

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That sounds interesting about your article! Glad I could help a bit :), @AAAndrew !

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Thanks a lot for your additions, @Mary_M , @RD5 and @K-2 ! I was away from the forum a bit, that's why I didn't thank you earlier :).

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@AAAndrew In my copy of L'art d'ecrire, Paillasson simply refers to the quill being cut »plus ou moins oblique« = »more or less slanting« (in the description of the Plate 4). I'm not sure if the word »oblique« is a Gallicism in English?

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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: French Roundhand Exemplars?
« on: July 26, 2019, 11:50:25 AM »
@sybillevz It also confused me that Soennecken claimed to have »invented« Rundschrift (round script), when it's clearly an adaption of the French Ronde … quite cheeky! But then I guess in pre-internet times it was much easier to claim something like that  ;D

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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Raised Gilding on Vellum
« on: April 11, 2019, 04:51:44 PM »
Wow – I really love your work. It looks amazing in its puristic beauty! Thanks for posting your project!

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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Female scribes through history
« on: February 25, 2019, 08:24:16 AM »
Thanks everyone for your responses! @sybillevz so great to read about these ladies. I'd heard from Esther Inglis before, I looked it up – there is one example of her work in P. Lovett's book »The art and history of calligraphy«. It shows a small illumination (a flower) and a paragraph in Italian Hand. I can't post it because of copyright – if I have time later, I can search if I find something online!

I think that book by Marie Pavie quite impressive :)!! – Have you seen that fun little drawing in the document page PP_202_018? It looks like it was drawn with very light ink …

Thanks again :)!

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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Re: Female scribes through history
« on: February 23, 2019, 05:04:05 PM »
Ooooh that sounds fascinating, @sybillevz – especially about that contemporary of Bickham :)! As you know that is one of my very favourite topics ;D

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Open Flourish | General Discussion / Female scribes through history
« on: February 23, 2019, 07:07:06 AM »
Dear flourishers, I've started a bit of research regarding female scribes / calligraphers in the past. In premodern times most female scribes in Europe were to be found in convents – they also needed scribes, and men were not allowed, so some nuns (mostly those coming from nobler families, but also craftsmen's or merchant's daughters, as far as my research tells me) learnt not only reading but also writing and illumination.

I'd be delighted for more names – feel free to post more links! Sorry, some of my finds are only available in German. For some scribes there is very little information, if someone is able to dig out more, I'd find it very interesting!

For a start, look at that cheerful nun! This is a page from a book written and illuminated (probably) by Elsbeth Stagel around 1440. It is from a »Schwesternbuch« (= book of sisters), describing religious experiences of devine grace from the sisters in the convent of Töss (Switzerland). They were Dominican sisters. Elsbeth carries the typical tools with that also male scribes were usually shown – quill and pen knife:

Elsbeth Stagel (Switzerland, 14. Century)

More about sister-books in general:

Sister-books (Germany, Switzerland, Middle Ages)

And some other scribes:

Regula von Lichtenthal (Germany, 15. Century)

Dorothea Schermann (Germany, 16. Century)

Ida of Nivelles (Belgium, 13. Century – according to the German Wikipedia entry, she was also a scribe and illuminator)

Nuns from the scriptorium of the Klarissenkloster Sankt Clara (Germany, 14. Century)

Just a mention in a list of graves:

Irtyu (Egypt, 600 to 300 before Christ)

The old Egyptians also had a goddess of writing:

Sehat, Old Egypt

In this (German) article about one of Mohamed's wifes, Hafsa bint Umar, a female scribe is mentioned that teached Hafsa writing and reading:

Schifāʾ bint ʿAbdallāh al-ʿAdawīya (Saudi Arabia, 7. Century)

Christine de Pizan, one of the earliest known female authors, was also a skilled scribe:
Christine de Pizan (France, 15. Century)

She worked with another female artist, who must have been an outstanding illuminator:
Anastasia (France, 15. Century)

Sorry, bit of a not so pretty picture, but this is evidence of another female illuminator from medieval times – the evidence being teeth with dental plaque containing lapislazuli pigments: she must have licked her brush (I got that link from the newsletter of British master calligrapher Patricia Lovett):
Unknown artist (Germany, around the year 1000)

Then Maria Strick, a Dutch scribe, teacher and head mistress – her husband actually engraved her work! Thanks to @sybillevz for telling me about her:
Maria Strick (Netherlands, 17. Century) and a bit about her life.

I'm sure there are more and I'll keep digging if I have time … would be interested also about women writers in Asia – maybe also in monastery settings? … Also I think I read somewhere about a famous female Turkish calligrapher (Arabic calligraphy), but I couldn't find her name with a quick search. There was also another Swiss scribe, who was not a nun, and who was nearly publishing a copy book, but then had to look after a sick family member and apparently nothing came from the plans. She must have been very talented, but it seems I forgot to bookmark the link and can't find out more now.

Have a nice weekend everyone!

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