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Thanks Kristin. I have sent a snail mail request and I will post what response I get.
@Elizabeth O.  and @CraigRuhl

In case no one has an easy answer handy, the magic of The Internet has archived the following page, circa January 2, 2019.  So, not too long ago.  No phone number, but there's an email or snail mail option in case no other explanations are forthcoming.  Please let us know if you get an answer!
My favorite place to buy vintage stamps is from - he is super cool. What I usually do is buy packets of $25 worth of stamps at a time and that lasts awhile. You only pay face value plus .49 cents for shipping (you pay by check after you've received the stamps in the mail). You can even tell him themes you want, like space, nature, etc, and stamp value ranges. I always get a great variety and am never disappointed :).

The link for doesn't work for me. I Googled it and find no other link. Perhaps they have closed? Suggestions most welcome. Thanks.
Hi all,

First of all, I am sorry if this is not in the right place (this is my first post).
I have a question for the forum Spencerian historians. ;)
What is the difference between the  Platt Rogers Spencer's Compendium of Semi Angular Penmanship Book 10 and Book 13? They do look the same except for the book number and cover color.

Thank you for asking this question. It's a delight to see a question that, as far as I know, hasn't been asked (and answered many times) on this forum before.
The two books are, indeed, very similar, but there are some subtle differences observable upon close examination of each. Book 13, despite its higher number, was published earlier, in 1857, during P. R. Spencer's lifetime, versus book 10, in 1866, two years after PRS's death at the behest of his sons, who were carrying on his work. If you look at the title pages of each, you'll see book 13 was published by Phinney & Co, Buffalo, NY, and by 1866, that company had evolved into Ivison, Phinney, Blakeman & Co., New York (I won't go into the history of that evolution here). Also on the title page of book 13 the lithographer--H. Gerlach, Buffalo--is mentioned, but not so on book 10.
The covers:  Book 13 was printed in more than one cover variation. The two copies I have are both bound in in blue cloth with blind stamped decoration (front and back) surrounding gold lettering. The fancier of the two has gilded pages (the edges, of course) and the gold is a red-gold, and the blind stamping is, shall we call it, type 1, whereas the other copy has type two blind stamping--just a different design.
Book 10 also came in at least two varieties of cover, one with redgold lettering and type 2 blind stamping, and the other--the yellow cover you see, is simply printed cardboard--a cheaper version--binding. Not unlike today, publishers will offer a deluxe version and a cheaper version, the contents being the same.
The interior:  The plates used to print book ten were almost surely the same plates used to print book 13, but by 1866, the plates were showing signs of wear and a few of them were either repaired or redone, as the quality of the print had degenerated. Some of the letters (see plate 44 the "B" is a different shape, or the ending "e" in"prime" on plate 45--there are a number of examples) were either redone or another plate produced by a different lithographer for book 10 (hence the omission of Gerlach's name in book 10)
Also, a few guidelines not in book 13 seem to be added to book 10. The illustration of the hand showing the holding of the pen is different between books 10 and 13, so done by a different person.
Book 10 has an added plate after #54 which shows examples of ledger heading (shaded Spencerian), which I don't find in my copies of book 13, which might have been added to the book 10.
The differences in book 13 versus 10 are small, content wise--you could use either with great success as a learning tool. The most significant difference is in the printing. Book 13 is very fine throughout. Early copies of book 10 are less fine, and later copies of book 10 (like one of mine whose inscription dates it to 1881) are even less fine--thin shades disappearing, tiny loops being filled, broken hairlines, etc.
The bottom line is that either book is great for learning. Book 13 is better to see the best reproduction of the original work.
Hi lovely people!

It has been awhile since I've posted...eek!

I was trying to find our pal Murph...but I noticed that his website is down.  Is anyone still buying stamps from him?
Favorite Resources / Re: The Calligraphy Podcast
« Last post by darrin1200 on April 16, 2019, 07:49:02 AM »

Congaratulations, I will definitely give it a listen today in the studio.
Exchange Tracking - Flourish-A-Fish 2019 / Re: Sent or Received - Let us Know!
« Last post by Starlee on April 16, 2019, 07:30:05 AM »
@ElizArt Hello! I just replied to your message with my address. Looking forward to receiving your work!
Favorite Resources / Re: The Calligraphy Podcast
« Last post by Erica McPhee on April 15, 2019, 08:23:46 PM »
Congrats on the launch! I look forward to listening!  :)
Introductions / Re: Hello from Canada
« Last post by Bianca M on April 15, 2019, 08:16:59 PM »
Welcome to the forum!
Favorite Resources / The Calligraphy Podcast
« Last post by ChristenAllocco on April 15, 2019, 07:59:08 PM »
Hi Calligrafriends!

I wanted to share about an exciting project I've been working on with @Ajab Rajvir Jandiala.

Today we officially launched The Calligraphy Podcast! It's a space for calligraphers to talk about share, and grow in their art–and cultivate community along the way.

We just released our second episode and I thought it might be something our Flourish friends may want to hear. We've learned that there are many people who agree that if we can't be writing in calligraphy, we may as well listen to people talk about it! Already we've had so many great conversations with calligraphers and look forward to incorporating the things we're learning into future episodes. Episodes are released every other week. We'll talk about a different topic every episode and look forward to having some great guests on the show.

I hope you'll consider giving it a listen. Below are a few links to the show. You can also participate in the conversations about each episode on our Instagram @thecalligraphypodcast.



Google Play


I hope you enjoy. If you give it a listen, let me know what you think!

<3 Christen

P.S. Erica, if this post should go somewhere else let me know :).
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